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Old 04-21-2014, 07:09 PM
 
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This seems to contradict 4X FPL. There is also an asset test with a cap of $7160.

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Old 04-21-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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No one is forced to use Medicare.
They can pay out of pocket at the point of service.

No one is writing individual plan policies for people who are 65 and older. This was true before ACA and remains true. The supplemental policy supplements Medicare. If one is not signed on for Medicare, there is nothing to supplement.

The exceptions to this are large group healthcare plans for those age 65 who continue to be employed by an employer who provides such benefit and travel/accident insurance. Medicare does not pay out of the U.S.
I'm not sure how this relates to the discussion. one isnt forced to use any insurance plan, no one claimed they were.
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Well its not really a tax write off.. By waiving the ability to go after the amount owed, the hospital qualifies for a medicaid suppliment. You friend would have qualified "temporarily" due to the injury.
The state and/ or fed are picking up a part of the unpaid tab, directly or indirectly.
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:13 PM
 
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pghqest,

your graph doesn't contradict MAM's claim. All your graph does is show what the 4X poverty limits are, but does not even indicate that medicaid is available up to 4X poverty.
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:17 PM
 
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The state and/ or fed are picking up a part of the unpaid tab, directly or indirectly.
Or the rest of us due to inflated costs.....
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:26 PM
 
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pghqest,

your graph doesn't contradict MAM's claim. All your graph does is show what the 4X poverty limits are, but does not even indicate that medicaid is available up to 4X poverty.
Medicaid-CHIP-Qualified Left With No Insurance Under ObamaCare But Are Eligible If Salary Doesn?t Exceed 4X Poverty Level of $92,500 | Opinion - Conservative

A child in New York state, for example, may be eligible for government-funded health care if his family’s household income is less than fourtimes the federal poverty level, or $92,200 for a family of four. Source: Slate (the chart above shows 4X poverty level to be $94,200.00)
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Actually the doctor said that my dad's minor artery has over 90% blockage, but even it is 100% blockage, it is still okay. I guess it is the major artery causes the most and fatal damage.

I do wonder, however, if there will any any medicare reform in the future. Definitely have to pay attention to that.
You can bet on it.

Some Republicans want to eliminate Medicare and replace it with a $15,000 annual voucher that can be used to pay for healthcare expenses, as incurred. $15K does not buy much when one has a Cancer diagnosis or a heart condition.

I would put the chances of this passing somewhere between slim and none.

There are now more U.S. people age 65 and older than at any other time in U.S. history. According to Census , there were 40.3 million people age 65 and older on April 1, 2010, up 5.3 percent from 35 million in 2000 (and just 3.1 million in 1900). ( Dang that Obama is causing the population to age).
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:30 PM
 
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You can bet on it.

Some Republicans want to eliminate Medicare and replace it with a $15,000 annual voucher that can be used to pay for healthcare expenses, as incurred. $15K does not buy much when one has a Cancer diagnosis or a heart condition.

I would put the chances of this passing somewhere between slim and none.

There are now more U.S. people age 65 and older than at any other time in U.S. history. According to Census , there were 40.3 million people age 65 and older on April 1, 2010, up 5.3 percent from 35 million in 2000 (and just 3.1 million in 1900). ( Dang that Obama is causing the population to age).
$15K per person would buy a very nice expensive top of the line policy. Remember, no pre-existing conditions anymore so them having heart problems or cancer wouldnt make any difference..
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I'm not sure how this relates to the discussion. one isnt forced to use any insurance plan, no one claimed they were.
You did claim :

"They can choose to buy individual plans or even take Medicare, and buy supplimental policies like the OP stated they are doing."

They could not buy an individual plan before or after ACA.
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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The state and fed are picking up part of the tab???? Where does the state and fed get the money. Could it possibly be getting it from the 51% of us that pay income tax????
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