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Old 04-25-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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15 years ago NATO started bombing Yugoslavia.
What do you think about these crimes now?
The same thing I thought about them at the time. The US, and NATO in general, had absolutely no business getting involved. Furthermore, the US and NATO were on the wrong side.

The US and NATO accomplished what the Germany NAZIs failed to accomplish during WW II, and what the Turkish Ottoman Empire accomplished in 1389. Considering that it was a Democrat President who deliberately lied to Congress in order to obtain Congress' support, it should not be a surprise that they would follow the German NAZI ideology. Both are socialist fascists after all.
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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So, who is going to make the USA pay for the "arrogance and poor judgement" of GW Bush and his band of war criminals?
certainly not the 30 million Iraqis who dont have to worry about Saddam's rape rooms and have actually gotten to vote in free elections wont be trying to make GWB and company pay for their collective deliverance....

I suppose Bagdad Bob is still a bit upset that his team lost?
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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It won't console people who lost their relatives and children.

And this thread is not about Milosevic's crimes, you can discuss this in next thread.
Given the numbers Milosevic was killing, this is a net reduction from what would have been lost if he had been allowed to continue. Milosevic and his followers are to blame for the entire episode including the losses incurred while fighting to stop him from genocide.
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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It won't console people who lost their relatives and children.
It sucks to be governed by a warmonger.

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And this thread is not about Milosevic's crimes, you can discuss this in next thread.
Excuse me? You posted "Slobodan Milosevic is on trial for crimes against humanity, genocide and war crimes". no?
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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It won't console people who lost their relatives and children.

And this thread is not about Milosevic's crimes, you can discuss this in next thread.

This thread IS about Milosevic's crimes, because without Milosevic's crimes, there would have been no bombing. You should be directing your ire and your thread towards him and his enablers (like Russia), not NATO.


See also: Whining about firebombing of Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Given the numbers Milosevic was killing...
According to the UN, both the US and NATO killed far more innocent civilians than Milosevic.
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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This thread IS about Milosevic's crimes, because without Milosevic's crimes, there would have been no bombing. You should be directing your ire and your thread towards him and his enablers (like Russia), not NATO.


See also: Whining about firebombing of Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Actually, this thread is about Clinton's and NATO's crimes. Clinton deliberately lied to Congress claiming that there was genocide taking place in Kosovo, which there was not. That is why the US and NATO began bombing, not because of anything Milosevic may have done, but solely based upon Clinton's lies to Congress.
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:45 AM
 
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NATO agression is not justify Milosevic's crimes, but do you know that kosovars killed a lot of serbians and thousands of them had to run from their homes because of it?
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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Actually, this thread is about Clinton's and NATO's crimes. Clinton deliberately lied to Congress claiming that there was genocide taking place in Kosovo, which there was not.
Nah, just a little ethnic cleansing. A few hundred thousand Kosovar Albanians driven from their homes, but hey - 1389!
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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According to the UN, both the US and NATO killed far more innocent civilians than Milosevic.
Nato:
"Human Rights Watch concludes that as few as 489 and as many as 528 Yugoslav civilians were killed in the ninety separate incidents in Operation Allied Force."
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/fil...s/natbm002.pdf


Milosevic:
"He purportedly ordered the deportation of 800,000 Kosovo Albanians and the murder of approximately 600 Albanians.

A second indictment states that Mr Milosevic committed crimes against humanity and war crimes in Croatia between 1991 and 1992. It alleges that he ordered the murders of hundreds of civilians as well as the expulsion of 170,000 non-Serbs from their homes.

Finally, a third indictment accuses Mr Milosevic of committing genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes in Bosnia between 1992 and 1995. Mr Milosevic is alleged to be responsible for 'the widespread killing of thousands of Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Croats.' "
I have a right to | BBC World Service

"Milosevic is charged with a total of approximately 10,000 killings and 250,000 deportations in Bosnia"
Milosevic to Face Bosnian Genocide Charges | Human Rights Watch
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