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Old 05-16-2014, 07:05 AM
 
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Yes it is about power and control. I've noticed that crimes that get a lot of publicity are the ones with attractive young women as the victims and they are usually petite so maybe that is why.
Of course. There are untold numbers of rapes and abductions that occur all over the world every day, but the MSM has to pick ones with the sensationalism and sympathy factors needed to milk the story for weeks or months.
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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Rapes happen to all age of victims from babies to 89 year old women. Yes handicapped people get raped as well. Rape is not about sexual attraction. A lot of men that commit serial rapes have attractive partners that they can have sexual relations with but this doesn't fulfil their need to dominate and have control over a victim. Some of these girlfriends/wives when interviewed often tell of incidents where they are choked during sex by their partners.

Some rapists do have a certain type of victim because the victim is dehumanised and becomes a symbol. Ted Bundy for example picked similar looking women to rape and murder because they looked like an ex-girlfriend that he resented so instead of taking his anger out on her he picked women who looked similar to her to rape and murder over and over again.

There are other rapists though that are opportunity rapists and they will rape anyone who is in the vacinity. This was the case with the Midnight Stalker and also another rapist called Ronnie Shelton; they raped young women and very elderly women.
Date rape can be largely sexual. A rapist can think it's "consent" when a drunken half naked woman acts willing or doesn't come out and say no -- maybe because she's passed out and he's also drunk.

A lot of rape is date rape -- and that can involve sexual lust on the part of the rapist. Bill Clinton himself raped Juanita Brodderick --- because she was alone with him in a hotel room.
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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Personally, I'll go with this. BUT, I am not a predator of women. Is it about power? Ummm....seems to be, but a true predator does not attack for power. They attack out of need. Most rapists NEED something that consensual sex doesn't provide. A fetish can overpower power over the victim there. Anger and revenge play in, which goes to power but not completely. Plain old adolescent type lust plays a huge role, since I don't think of a male that rapes as a "Man". More like a rank and attitude rich horse colt, who fancies themselves a stud, but are culled for gelding by those who decide such things.
Rape is a violent act, but its not always about power over the victim. But, is is always about a perverse need for something. Power....or otherwise.
Or the rapist thinks he needs sex. He may have been brought up to think of sex as a physical need. Then on a date, he uses alcohol or drugs to make the woman "easy" or she's made herself "easy" with drugs and/or alcohol -- she's become very available and he thinks he has physical needs that must be filled.

Yes, these kinds of rapists will seek out the women that appear to be more willing and slutty dress and provocative behavior is what they interpret as a consent. They don't have to hide in a dark alley looking for victims, they find them at parties where the alcohol and drugs are flowing, they find them in bars with women who thought it was okay to leave with a stranger.

A woman who doesn't get drunk at a party and doesn't get picked up at bars when she's drunk can be very attractive but isn't as likely to be raped as the woman who is sloppy drunk and wearing next to nothing and leaves the bar with anyone who invites her.
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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That is not consent. That you think it is shows you don't actually know what it means, which is rather alarming. Does that mean if you were in such a situation you would disregard the woman's refusal and continue?



Again, you're showing your ignorance. Dressing provocatively is not always a signal for sex and is NEVER an "invitation to rape" (however figuratively you want to use it. The phrase just doesn't make sense.) You are shifting blame from rapists, which is, again, alarming.



You have no data to back that up and, again, you're showing your ignorance. I'm tired of quoting your posts.

PS: Life exists beyond the college dorm.
No one is "blaming the victim" for dressing provocatively. Rape is a crime, the same as armed robbery, burglary or assault. Do you blame a robbery victim for leaving his garage door open or car unlocked with a purse sitting on the seat? No, of course not, they are still crime victims. No more than people are "blaming the victim" for dressing provocatively and getting drunk. It's not their fault. Still, there are criminal predators and EVERYONE has a responsibility for their own safety and security. It's can be as simple as locking the house up when leaving home or go to bed, to not leaving valuables in plain sight on the car seat...to not getting falling down drunk in a group of strangers. Or these precautions can go further, to carrying a concealed firearm or mace. That is far from blaming the victim.
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Old 05-16-2014, 12:20 PM
 
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A woman who doesn't get drunk at a party and doesn't get picked up at bars when she's drunk can be very attractive but isn't as likely to be raped as the woman who is sloppy drunk and wearing next to nothing and leaves the bar with anyone who invites her.
I used to get drunk but I just got meaner and braver, like an angry feminist on steroids, no guy wanted any of that.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:34 PM
 
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In some very limited circumstances, perhaps. When everyone is dressed conservatively(say people who adhere to religious dress standards), rape still happens.
Of course it does. Again, rape is going to happen, no matter what. I don't think the circumstances would be all that limited, though. In cases of acquaintance rape, the most common form, I think how a girl is viewed by her attacker from a sexual standpoint(promiscuous/chaste) is a factor a rapist often considers. Fair or not, girls who are(or are simply perceived to be) promiscuous will be seen as less credible when accusing someone of rape.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Common scenes is:

Rape is not about power and control, ... that is the dumb psychologist talk .

Rape is about having lustful sex with someone you would not be able
to have sex with, any other way.
One wants sex ( rapist ) and the other one doesn't ( the one being raped )

Even in prison men raping men is about lustful sex with no hassle,
or delayed time ... it's quick and it's over.

Rape has nothing to do with age either ( young or old ) ...
it is just about sexual preference, fetishes , and fulfillments, of the rapist,
with no regard of feeling of the one being raped.

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Yes, you're so much smarter than all those dumb psychologists.

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Old 05-16-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I can't tell you how many people i have come across that believe attractive women are likely to be raped.
Also,many people believe that petite women are more likely to be raped.
I've never heard anybody say those things, here or anywhere else.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:15 PM
 
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[quote=Tyrannis;34815352]Please read the thread, Strawman.
Outside of prison, unlike women, men aren't likely to be targeted for rape.

Not true! i think men are more likely than woman to not report rape.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:31 PM
 
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When a "peeping tom " gets caught, is he more likely to be peeking in the bedroom window of an 80 year old grandmother or an 18 year old beauty ?
Well well,some man in Nyc raped an elderly 65 yr old lady in a park.
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