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Old 05-06-2014, 02:44 PM
 
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We all know it is coming. Automation. Your jobs will be replaced by computers, robots, and a combination of both.

The UN predicts the Earth's population will eclipse 9 billion by 2050. The question is... how will we keep people employed in the advent of automation? We are going to need a lot of nonessential jobs, a larger safety net / basic income, or (probably) both.

Looking for serious discussion only. This is a serious social problem for the future generation. (Telling people to starve is not legitimate response)
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:45 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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What Are We Going To Do About Automation?


Get more, to lower costs and produce better stuff.
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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Cut back work hours to spread them around more evenly. Stop increasing the size of the labor pool, particularly with increasingly unemployable individuals.
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:51 PM
 
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What Are We Going To Do About Automation?


Get more, to lower costs and produce better stuff.
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Cut back work hours to spread them around more evenly. Stop increasing the size of the labor pool, particularly with increasingly unemployable individuals.
That all becomes irrelevant.

With less employed people, there is less money around to buy goods. Prices dropping due to deflation is bad. Less demand is less wages. That is why the government stimulates inflation artificially if it has to.
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Spokane, WA
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We all know it is coming. Automation. Your jobs will be replaced by computers, robots, and a combination of both.

The UN predicts the Earth's population will eclipse 9 billion by 2050. The question is... how will we keep people employed in the advent of automation? We are going to need a lot of nonessential jobs, a larger safety net / basic income, or (probably) both.

Looking for serious discussion only. This is a serious social problem for the future generation. (Telling people to starve is not legitimate response)
Interesting. What's your solution? Is more people a bad thing? I thought if we have more people somewhere then that is a good thing?
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:59 PM
 
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Basic income, and shorter working hours. But really its the transition to that thats going to be crazy. I've actually considered writing a book about it.
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Old 05-06-2014, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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I have no idea (a great contribution to this thread, eh?).

We are rendering ourselves obsolete through technology.
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Old 05-06-2014, 03:01 PM
 
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there will always be jobs. no matter how much automation increases, someone needs to program, build, repair, and maintain the systems. and someone needs to sell and install the systems. and just because amazon.com and other online retailers are doing well, doesnt mean that sears, walmart and other stores of the like are going away anytime soon. cars will still need a human touch to build and repair, same with aircraft, and many other industrial items, as there are things that robots just cant do.

but if you really want to do something about automation, as in getting rid of it, become a ludite.
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Old 05-06-2014, 03:01 PM
 
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There are so many "jobs" out there right now that aren't being done it's hard to even comprehend. We've got so many bridge repairs, roads and other construction projects that aren't being done or funded right now that the citizens of this country are at risk. It's not a matter of automation eliminating jobs, it's that automation eliminates jobs that were once gravy, high paying jobs that people will little or no skill could keep for 25 - 30 years like union auto workers. We already see those jobs disappearing due to automation and just plain old logic.

People will need to learn actual trades again, people will need to learn how to physically do a job which is valuable again. Robots aren't going to replace bridge steel workers or guys paving roads. Robots will never replace plumbers, electricians or carpenters.
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Old 05-06-2014, 03:02 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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People have been losing their jobs for various reasons, and getting others, for at least the last few thousand years.

Why is "automation" any different from the other reasons?
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