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Old 05-14-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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Either the authors are frauds or they think (correctly) their readers are idiots.
Belgium didn't buy those treasuries. Belgium-based broker Euroclear likely has those treasuries. It's pretty high likelyhood that at least some of that increase is the Russians moving their holdings (not just treasuries but other holdings as well that they converted to treasuries) to a 3rd country (Belgium) as a way of protecting themselves against U.S. possible sanctions over the Ukraine crises. Brussels-based Euroclear is huge holder of such bonds and other investments for clients all over the world. If the authors don't know that, they are woefully ignorant and have no business posing as folks who are "knowledgeable" - and if they DID know that then they should have DISCLOSED that possiblity (actually, PROBABLITY). The fact that they didn't do that (and in fact, simply said that there is NO other possiblity except that the US did it) indicates that they are (as I said) either really really ignorant, or they are deliberately trying to mislead and manipulate their readers. They present ZERO evidence that the US was involved and COMPLETELY the possibility that it had NOTHING to do with the FED and was simply someone else moving their assets to Belgium (for whatever reason).

And, the fact that so many wingnuts immediately jumped on the "yeah, it's the Fed doing it" bandwagon - without even apparently realizing there's an alternate possiblity (actually, PROBABILITY) simply shows just how uneducated the wingnuts on this board are.

Ken
It will be interesting, to say the least, to see how this all fleshes out. I would think that a bunch of this new volume is related to QE, swaps in and out with banking vs excess reserves. I'm sure that we will be hearing and learning more about this development in the near future.
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:55 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It will be interesting, to say the least, to see how this all fleshes out. I would think that a bunch of this new volume is related to QE, swaps in and out with banking vs excess reserves. I'm sure that we will be hearing and learning more about this development in the near future.

The economic indicators, are seeing 2015-2020 as bad news for the USA economy.
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Old 05-16-2014, 07:15 AM
 
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The economic indicators, are seeing 2015-2020 as bad news for the USA economy.
We were supposed to be booming long before then with these brilliant actions by the Fed. It's not working?
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Old 05-16-2014, 07:18 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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We were supposed to be booming long before then with these brilliant actions by the Fed. It's not working?

Overlay our sequence of events, on a graph of the economic woes of The Great Depression.

Utterly scary.


The media will never let the truth come out, or panic would ensue.
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Old 05-16-2014, 09:58 AM
 
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The economic indicators, are seeing 2015-2020 as bad news for the USA economy.
I'm still on the net optimistic side myself.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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Overlay our sequence of events, on a graph of the economic woes of The Great Depression.

Utterly scary.


The media will never let the truth come out, or panic would ensue.
Total nonsense - as usual.


Ken
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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The economic indicators, are seeing 2015-2020 as bad news for the USA economy.
Which economic indicators are those?

Ken
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:23 AM
 
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Total nonsense - as usual.


Ken

Mirroring it to the line on the graph, is total nonsense?

Who was sneaky enough to slip the blinders on your eyes?
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:45 AM
 
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Which economic indicators are those?

Ken

Ever hear of a guy named, Nikolai Kondratiev
Kondratiev's ideas were not supported by the Soviet government. Subsequently he was sent to the gulag and was executed in 1938. For authoring the book, The Major Economic Cycles


•Young people cause inflation because they "cost everything and produce nothing." But young people eventually "begin to pay off when they enter the workforce and become productive new workers (supply) and higher-spending consumers (demand)."
•Unfortunately, the U.S. reached its demographic "peak spending" from 2003-2007 and is headed for the "demographic cliff." Germany, England, Switzerland are all headed there too. Then China will be the first emerging market to fall off the cliff, albeit in a few decades. The world is getting older.
•The U.S. stock market will crash. "Our best long-term and intermediate cycles suggest another slowdown and stock crash accelerating between very early 2014 and early 2015, and possibly lasting well into 2015 or even 2016. The worst economic trends due to demographics will hit between 2014 and 2019. The U.S. economy is likely to suffer a minor or major crash by early 2015 and another between late 2017 and late 2019 or early 2020 at the latest."
•"The everyday consumer never came out of the last recession." The rich are the ones feeling great and spending money, as asset prices (not wages) are aided by monetary stimulus.
•The U.S. and Europe are headed in the same direction as Japan, a country still in a "coma economy precisely because it never let its debt bubble deleverage," Dent argues. "The only way we will not follow in Japan's footsteps is if the Federal Reserve stops printing new money."
•"The reality is stark, when dyers start to outweigh buyers, the market changes." It all comes down to an aging population, Dent writes. "Fewer spenders, borrowers, and investors will be around to participate in the next boom."
•The U.S. has a crazy amount of debt and "economists and politicians have acted like we can just wave a magic wand of endless monetary injections and bailouts and get over what they see as a short-term crisis." But the problem, Dent says, is long-term and structural — demographics.
•Businesses can "dominate the years to come" by focusing on cash and cash flow, being "lean and mean," deferring major capital expenditures, selling nonstrategic real estate, and firing weak employees now.
•The big four challenges in the years ahead will be 1) private and public debt 2) health care and retirement entitlements 3) authoritarian governance around the globe and 4) environmental pollution that threatens the global economy.

2015 To 2020 Will Be Pure Hell For The United States
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Don't be shocked! After all, it is the Federal Reserve. The Bank that runs the world.
Deceive the people and hold all the money!
Bend over, the insertion will be painful.



Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate.






In other words, during those 3 months there was a major rise in bond purchases by the Fed. The Fed’s actually purchased $27 billion per month, for those three months. Way above the original $85 billion monthly purchase and $47 billion above the official $65 billion monthly purchase at that time. In March 2014, official QE was tapered to $55 billion per month and to $45 billion for May.



The Fed Is The Great Deceiver


With liberals you can not believe anything they say



END THE FED!
They are the root of all evils in the United States of America and the world.
With liberals you can not believe anything they say
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