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Old 05-31-2014, 08:11 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Of course not.

As we all "know," Obama is the enemy of everything and the worst president ever and somehow magically responsible for events that happened before he took office. The partisan hacks around here are some of the worst loons I've ever seen.

The reality is that Obama is stunningly mediocre in a long line of mediocre leaders. He's better than Dubya - but then again, a random guy off the street would meet that qualification - but he's still not impressive. In the end, our leaders answer to their masters (Big Business, Big Religion, assorted special interest and activist groups, Big Defense, etc.) and only pretend to care about Americans when they need their poll numbers boosted.

Most of the "terrible things" in that list are either relatively minor failings that cannot in any sane way be attributed to Obama, or totally made up nonsense. The only one that is truly a large-scale disgrace is the VA situation, and that's been going on for many decades.
So, you minimize the Administrations failure to send in help for Americans under attack in Benghazi, leaving four Americans to die while they watched on live video from the White House and refer to it as a "relatively minor failing, not attributable to Obama?" Even though we don't know where Obama was on that night? The "Commander in Chief" was AWOL while American territory, our Consulate, was under attack? Just a minor failing. Of course. Just a "made up" scandal for political purposes. Right?

Amazing.
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Old 05-31-2014, 08:12 AM
 
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I didn't realize Obama invaded the Ukraine. Thanks for enlightening us... or, is this another one of those "Arrr!!! We should have nuked Moscow years ago!" replies, which conveniently ignores the fact that the credits don't roll with the phrase "Mission Accomplished!" after you drop bombs on people you don't like.

Putin restarted the Cold War, but he's nothing but a Stalin-wanna-be, so what else is to be expected?
Obama's weakness and unwillingness/resistance to using force in places like syria emboldened enemies like the dog putin to become bolder, just as it has to the scum of humanity like khameini, who act and speak like there are no longer any restraints against bad behavior. A weak president like obama will only increase the likelihood and need for war later.
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Old 05-31-2014, 08:26 AM
 
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Default Dems Dismiss when they are on the bad side!

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Your posts are always comedy gold. Yeah, that big "Whitewater" scandal that Ken Starr squandered millions upon millions of dollars on only to come up totally empty is gonna sink Clinton. It's clear Darrell Issa is following in Starr's footsteps with the same predictable result. And when he comes up with nothing, maybe you could go back to demanding that Obama show his "real" birth certificate.

It is funny sad when you guys can not debate a augment and the point goes against your point of view.

Dismiss make fun of and blow off. The Democratic way. If the stakes were no so serious this could be funny. You should take the direction of this country more seriously.

Ms... Clinton took the 5th as did Lois learner, even with solid proof. It just happen to be bad taste to give the First Lady Contempt of Congress, never mind having her new home in Federal Prison. In both cases there is a paper trail of cover up and corruption.
Put it this way.there was a deal behind closed doors and it smells of Clinton! Yet anther deal was struck when the DNC picked Obama over Clinton.

How do you think Clinton paid for her run for President?

This Birther issue has turned to be a bad joke and the Dem's continue to combat anyone who ask a question as a loon. There is something wrong with that thinking , instead of staying to the facts. This always almost ends in calling regular citizens "Birther"

You can dismiss and hide and make fun of serious issues, but the bad track record of Obama and Clinton will be the DNC undoing.

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Old 05-31-2014, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Where you aren't
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Amazing list. Shows that after more than 6 years all that the Right can quibble about are minor skirmishes and silly government acts. Basically the list boils down to failure to properly fund the VA...a problem that is more than 50 years old.

http://www.downtrend.com/robertgehl/...stortions-etc/
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Old 05-31-2014, 08:49 AM
 
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Default Obama / Clinton run and Hide!

These are serious times and we are dealing with a Adminstration that issues new laws and abuse of the Executive Order Policy.

But is was a good thread that seals Obamas Fate as a Leader of the Free World? There we go again marginalizing serious issues again!
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Old 05-31-2014, 09:50 AM
 
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It is funny sad when you guys can not debate a augment and the point goes against your point of view.

Dismiss make fun of and blow off. The Democratic way. If the stakes were no so serious this could be funny. You should take the direction of this country more seriously.

Ms... Clinton took the 5th as did Lois learner, even with solid proof. It just happen to be bad taste to give the First Lady Contempt of Congress, never mind having her new home in Federal Prison. In both cases there is a paper trail of cover up and corruption.
Put it this way.there was a deal behind closed doors and it smells of Clinton! Yet anther deal was struck when the DNC picked Obama over Clinton.

How do you think Clinton paid for her run for President?

This Birther issue has turned to be a bad joke and the Dem's continue to combat anyone who ask a question as a loon. There is something wrong with that thinking , instead of staying to the facts. This always almost ends in calling regular citizens "Birther"

You can dismiss and hide and make fun of serious issues, but the bad track record of Obama and Clinton will be the DNC undoing.
Your continued birther beliefs are proof enough of your tinfoil hat bonafides. Everything you have posted here is simply more of the same conspiracy theory garbage. I'm surprised you didn't throw Vince Foster in for good measure.

But then, anyone who still believes in the birther lore after all of the evidence to the contrary has shown that they will believe in anything and everything so long as it fits their agenda. Your post is Exhibit A in that truth.
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Old 05-31-2014, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Pa
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1 word says it all. Failed.
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Old 05-31-2014, 11:11 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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No need to fret.

He is outraged, and will get to the bottom of it.

Translation: will stonewall and hide evidence until it's old news, then say Bush/Fox News/Tea Party is to blame for it all.
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Old 05-31-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: WY
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I feel the same way most in this thread do, but Obama is on the way out the door. History will judge him (and I hope it judges him harshly). The mid terms are coming up and so is the presidential election. Best to keep your eye on the ball - less Obama bashing and more candidate vetting.

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Old 05-31-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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So, you minimize the Administrations failure to send in help for Americans under attack in Benghazi, leaving four Americans to die while they watched on live video from the White House and refer to it as a "relatively minor failing, not attributable to Obama?" Even though we don't know where Obama was on that night? The "Commander in Chief" was AWOL while American territory, our Consulate, was under attack? Just a minor failing. Of course. Just a "made up" scandal for political purposes. Right?

Amazing.
Benghazi was not American territory. It was a leased compound that has no sovereign status. It was clearly a CIA operation with no real state department role. That has all been clear from day one.

The most knowledgeable person about Benghazi and its security status was the Ambassador who chose to place himself there for reasons that are likely of the spook sort. It does not appear there was any deliberate attack on the Ambassador. He simply got caught in an attack on the consulate and was unlucky...the security guy with him survived though the communication specialist did not.

Under any circumstances the Ambassador and his Assistant were done in before any possible response in or out of country.

The other two fatalities were CIA contract special forces. They were apparently manning weapons on the roof of the annex when hit by a mortar round. It is unlikely that any response would have changed this outcome. I would guess they could have remained in doors but that would have not made them very useful for defending the annex which was their role.

The story told afterward certain was not well done. It does however read more on the CIA trying to disguise what they were doing there than any administration cover up. Note that the role of the CIA annex in Benghazi has never been made public.

And the ongoing Benghazi affair is a right wing promotion that will likely end up costing the Repubs. Hammer a bad issue long enough and it bites you.
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