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Old 05-31-2014, 04:42 AM
 
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Total incompetence, resulting in the death of thousands, describes a man whose only goal is to see himself deified.
  • Fast and Furious, resulting in the deaths of thousands of Mexicans in a foolish effort to gin up a demand for gun control legislation.
  • Enabling the Iranian nuclear program via ending of sanctions, while claiming to be doing something to end it, and supporting the mullahs, while thousands of Iranians die at their hands.
  • New "rules of engagement" for American soldiers, prohibiting them from firing first, or firing at all if civilians might be killed. How many American lives have been lost because of this foolish change?
  • Announcing troop withdrawal dates of Afghan troops, so that the Taliban need only patiently wait.
  • The Iraq War, already won before he took office. Barry failed to protect our gains and the Iraqi people, and Iraqis are now under daily attack once again by al-Qaeda, and the Iraqi air space is now owned by Iran, not the USA. Nice job, Barry.
  • Al Qaeda now controls more territory than ever before, and their flag flies in Fallujah.
  • Failing to protect Americans in Benghazi, after placing them in harms way. Four Americans were left to die in a terrorist attack, not acknowledged by the Administration, which instead invented and promoted a story about a video, and refuses to cooperate with any investigation to learn the truth, which the job of oversight is Congress's to do.
  • Deaths of US Vets awaiting treatment because of incompetence and corruption in the VA, the VA Hospital system having been held up as a model for Obamacare. Is this what we have to look foreward to? We were warned.
Articles: How Many Have to Die?


This list could go on and on. Every Democrat that supports this President is equally responsible (and that is all of them).
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Old 05-31-2014, 04:47 AM
 
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Just to be consistent, are Republicans that supported Bush equally responsible for our soldiers killed in the Iraq war?
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Old 05-31-2014, 04:58 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Just to be consistent, are Republicans that supported Bush equally responsible for our soldiers killed in the Iraq war?
That isn't "being consistent." The Iraq War was not a failure (for one thing), and their was no incompetency in the way that war was executed.

Both Democrats and Republicans supported the Iraq War. That decision was strategically sound, and it resulted in the freeing of the Iraqi people from an evil dictator. Barrack Obama has nullified our success in Iraq, and turned Iraq over to the Iranians, who now control the air space. So it would appear now that Americans died in vain, not because of anything Bush did, but because of Obama's failure to protect what we had gained.
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Old 05-31-2014, 05:02 AM
 
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Total incompetence, resulting in the death of thousands, describes a man whose only goal is to see himself deified.
  • Fast and Furious, resulting in the deaths of thousands of Mexicans in a foolish effort to gin up a demand for gun control legislation.
  • Enabling the Iranian nuclear program via ending of sanctions, while claiming to be doing something to end it, and supporting the mullahs, while thousands of Iranians die at their hands.
  • New "rules of engagement" for American soldiers, prohibiting them from firing first, or firing at all if civilians might be killed. How many American lives have been lost because of this foolish change?
  • Announcing troop withdrawal dates of Afghan troops, so that the Taliban need only patiently wait.
  • The Iraq War, already won before he took office. Barry failed to protect our gains and the Iraqi people, and Iraqis are now under daily attack once again by al-Qaeda, and the Iraqi air space is now owned by Iran, not the USA. Nice job, Barry.
  • Al Qaeda now controls more territory than ever before, and their flag flies in Fallujah.
  • Failing to protect Americans in Benghazi, after placing them in harms way. Four Americans were left to die in a terrorist attack, not acknowledged by the Administration, which instead invented and promoted a story about a video, and refuses to cooperate with any investigation to learn the truth, which the job of oversight is Congress's to do.
  • Deaths of US Vets awaiting treatment because of incompetence and corruption in the VA, the VA Hospital system having been held up as a model for Obamacare. Is this what we have to look foreward to? We were warned.
Articles: How Many Have to Die?


This list could go on and on. Every Democrat that supports this President is equally responsible (and that is all of them).
Amazing list. Shows that after more than 6 years all that the Right can quibble about are minor skirmishes and silly government acts. Basically the list boils down to failure to properly fund the VA...a problem that is more than 50 years old.
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Old 05-31-2014, 05:04 AM
 
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I was mostly with you on Obama's legacy, but can't agree with you on consistency. The Iraq war was a disaster - the country needed a dictator to keep order amongst groups that can't help but kill each other.

Out of curiosity though, why are we responsible for fixing Iraq, Iran, or any other country?
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Old 05-31-2014, 05:06 AM
 
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Was it a scandal when soldiers at Walter Reed were found to be living with rats and cockroaches in 2007? Just asking.
Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army's Top Medical Facility
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Old 05-31-2014, 05:52 AM
 
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Total incompetence, resulting in the death of thousands, describes a man whose only goal is to see himself deified.
  • Fast and Furious, resulting in the deaths of thousands of Mexicans in a foolish effort to gin up a demand for gun control legislation.
  • Enabling the Iranian nuclear program via ending of sanctions, while claiming to be doing something to end it, and supporting the mullahs, while thousands of Iranians die at their hands.
  • New "rules of engagement" for American soldiers, prohibiting them from firing first, or firing at all if civilians might be killed. How many American lives have been lost because of this foolish change?
  • Announcing troop withdrawal dates of Afghan troops, so that the Taliban need only patiently wait.
  • The Iraq War, already won before he took office. Barry failed to protect our gains and the Iraqi people, and Iraqis are now under daily attack once again by al-Qaeda, and the Iraqi air space is now owned by Iran, not the USA. Nice job, Barry.
  • Al Qaeda now controls more territory than ever before, and their flag flies in Fallujah.
  • Failing to protect Americans in Benghazi, after placing them in harms way. Four Americans were left to die in a terrorist attack, not acknowledged by the Administration, which instead invented and promoted a story about a video, and refuses to cooperate with any investigation to learn the truth, which the job of oversight is Congress's to do.
  • Deaths of US Vets awaiting treatment because of incompetence and corruption in the VA, the VA Hospital system having been held up as a model for Obamacare. Is this what we have to look foreward to? We were warned.
Articles: How Many Have to Die?


This list could go on and on. Every Democrat that supports this President is equally responsible (and that is all of them).
Its amazing that the age technogies has confirmed the Failure of a President and the Democratic machine is about to lose its wheels.
This Government uses the Agencies like the EPA and BLM to police hard working Americans. There is continued effort to keep American Exceptionalism pulled back for the sake of "Social Justice"

There is emails, whistleblowers and the impact of Political games that the Dems have done. They demonize the Tea Party when in fact they are the ones, Democrats, making bad decisions based on political gain.

End Game Obama and Clinton.

We as citizens had as much as we can take with Obama and Clinton..

Last edited by GHOSTRIDER AZ; 05-31-2014 at 06:16 AM..
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Old 05-31-2014, 06:09 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I was mostly with you on Obama's legacy, but can't agree with you on consistency. The Iraq war was a disaster - the country needed a dictator to keep order amongst groups that can't help but kill each other.

Out of curiosity though, why are we responsible for fixing Iraq, Iran, or any other country?
What should we have done in response to 9/11? Nothing? An act of war was committed against the United States.

Why do you say the Iraq war was "a disaster?" What was disastrous about it?
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Old 05-31-2014, 06:17 AM
 
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Its amazing that the age technogies has confirmed the Failure of a President and the Democratic machine is about to lose its wheels.
This Government uses the Agencies like the EPA and BLM to police hard working Americans. There is continued effort to keep American Exceptionalism pulled back for the sake of "Social Justice"

There is emails, whistleblowers and the impact of Political games that the Dems have done. They demonize the Tea Party when in fact they are the ones making bad decisions based on political gain.

End Game Obama and Clinton.

We as citizens had as much as we can take with Obama and Clinton..
You are sure going to be unhappy during Hilary's terms.
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Old 05-31-2014, 06:21 AM
 
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What should we have done in response to 9/11? Nothing? An act of war was committed against the United States.

Why do you say the Iraq war was "a disaster?" What was disastrous about it?
YOu mean you think it sensible to attack our enemies enemy to gain revenge? How does that work?

And the outcome was clear before we started. An Iraqi war would favor our enemies not our friend. The destabilization of Iraq played to favor Iran and other radical Muslims. All very likely from day one but we did it anyway.

It is called stupid. And stupid paid for in American and Iraqi deaths.
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