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The key issue of this thread is "why do so many people want to tell others how to live?" Yet, here we are having right wingers telling women how to live and what they cannot do with their own bodies and what could grow inside it.
A fetus is a fetus, it is the choice of the mother to decide if she wishes to be the host that gives the fetus life. If you kill a fetus against the will of the mother, you take away that choice, which is murder. A woman should not be forced to be a host against her will.
It is a shame you are unable to understand that concept.
How is it murder? You still haven't answered that question. And a woman carrying a fetus is a mother? Really?
It is murder because it wasn't the woman's choice to lose the fetus. Is the concept of a woman's choice too hard for you to understand?
You don't understand what I'm asking. Murder is committed against people by definition. If it's murder to kill a fetus, then the fetus is a person. I'm asking you to explain why you think killing a fetus should be murder. If a fetus is merely a body part, then why don't you think it should be assault?
I have no problem with people having double standards. I just wish you'd acknowledge them and the reasons why even if they're entirely emotional.
You don't understand what I'm asking. Murder is committed against people by definition. If it's murder to kill a fetus, then the fetus is a person. I'm asking you to explain why you think killing a fetus should be murder. If a fetus is merely a body part, then why don't you think it should be assault?
I have no problem with people having double standards. I just wish you'd acknowledge them and the reasons why even if they're entirely emotional.
Well I am sorry I cannot explain the answer better for you, maybe you should read the reasoning for it in a court case that ruled the killing of a fetus against a woman's will as a murder. Maybe that will better explain it for you.
Again, there is not double standard here, a woman has full rights to her own body, it is her choice if she wishes to have a fetus growing inside her or not. Therefore a woman who has an abortion isn't a murderer, if someone kills that fetus against the woman's will, then that person is a murderer. Zero emotion goes into that statement, I am simply stating a fact. If you do not understand a woman's choice, then it seems I will never be able to get you to understand that statement, which really isn't my problem as long as abortion is legal and a woman's choice.
Well I am sorry I cannot explain the answer better for you, maybe you should read the reasoning for it in a court case that ruled the killing of a fetus against a woman's will as a murder. Maybe that will better explain it for you.
Again, there is not double standard here, a woman has full rights to her own body, it is her choice if she wishes to have a fetus growing inside her or not. Therefore a woman who has an abortion isn't a murderer, if someone kills that fetus against the woman's will, then that person is a murderer. Zero emotion goes into that statement, I am simply stating a fact. If you do not understand a woman's choice, then it seems I will never be able to get you to understand that statement, which really isn't my problem as long as abortion is legal and a woman's choice.
Urbanlife, there wasn't a court case. There were laws passed in some states allowing murder charges when a fetus was killed. Incidentally, these were laws supported by pro-life groups and opposed by pro-choice groups as at least some actually defined a fetus as a person and simply included exceptions to homicide laws for abortions. Pro-choice groups were not comfortable with these laws.
I understand "woman's choice." What I do not understand is this...is, in your opinion, a fetus a person or a body part? I'm simply trying to point out that you're avoiding that question.
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