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So if the levels are needed at $200 billion, then that's what we have to pay. I don't know why all of sudden we get scared to pay these amounts - we fought TWO wars.
War is expensive.
You don't know that.
Have them do an audit.
Where is all the money going ?
Lifeline did an audit when their funding got outrageous.
41% got kicked out (were not eligible).
That freed up $1 billion dollars.
Well, what does that say? Canada has less population, didn't fight two wars while cutting taxes, and has less inefficiencies in is process of government money.
It says we address the inefficiencies, not further fund them.
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So why can't we emulate them? That $150 billion could be a lot lower.
We could. I'm not one to argue that everything we do is done in the best manner. I have been against us fighting those wars for years. I also argued to keep us out of Syria. That we needed to inform S. Korea that N. Korea was theirs and China's problem.
What else is in those bills? The way I see it is that the dems put something in the bill the repubs would not vote for.....knowingly. ..
So tell me...how does it feel to not support the Soldiers?
Nothing. The GOP just said it was too expensive and better not to spend the money. Of course, vets died but the GOP didn't care about that at the time.
The GOP couldn't block Obamacare and it couldn't block a VA bill if Senate Democrats were serious about passing one.
Nice try, but the failure to pass any bill in the Senate lies squarely with you and the failed Democrats you keep voting for.
What a fantasy world you live in. Republican use of the filibuster means you need 60 votes instead of the constitutional 50 plus the VP's tie breaker vote.
What a fantasy world you live in. Republican use of the filibuster means you need 60 votes instead of the constitutional 50 plus the VP's tie breaker vote.
The Democrats can circumvent any filibuster they want by using parliamentary tricks, just like they did with Obamacare.
The GOP couldn't block Obamacare and it couldn't block a VA bill if Senate Democrats were serious about passing one.
Nice try, but the failure to pass any bill in the Senate lies squarely with you and the failed Democrats you keep voting for.
You are trying to blame the democrats for a bill the republicans blocked? Have right-wingers no shame? Do right-wingers take responsibility for anything?
The Democrats can circumvent any filibuster they want by using parliamentary tricks, just like they did with Obamacare.
I really hate having to sidetrack to save posters from embarrassing themselves but I guess I need to because you keep posting the same misinformation:
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On December 23, the Senate voted 60–39 to end debate on the bill: a cloture vote to end the filibuster by opponents. The bill then passed by a vote of 60–39 on December 24, 2009, with all Democrats and two independents voting for, and all Republicans voting against (except for Jim Bunning, who did not vote).
Between 1980 and 2009, 17 of 23 reconciliation bills have been signed into law by Republican presidents (a Republican was president for 20 of those 29 years). Since 1980, reconciliation has been used nine times when Republicans controlled both the House and the Senate, six times when Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate, one time when the Democrats controlled the Senate and the Republicans the House, and seven times when the Republicans controlled the Senate and the Democrats controlled the House. Reconciliation has been used at least once nominally for a non-budgetary purpose (for example, see the College Cost Reduction and Access Act of 2007, when a Republican was president and the Democrats controlled Congress). The 1986 Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 (COBRA) contained some health care provisions.
I don't know, you tell me. They were overwhelmingly GOP folks.
"...Of the 14 Republican senators who have called for Shinseki’s ousting, 11 voted “no” on the bill.* (All Democratic senators but one voted in favor.)...
...Veterans groups have been decrying that the VA has been chronically underfunded for years. Though there’s a slew of reasons for the VA’s awful failures on this front, one can’t help but think that voting against giving the agency much-needed resources, then crying bloody murder over Shinseki’s role, smacks of hypocrisy..."
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