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Old 06-01-2014, 08:49 AM
 
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You mean the democratic shut down because they would not delay Obamacare.
Give it up. Cruz takes full credit for the shutdown. He wants the credit. Don't go trying to take it away from him now.

Cruz: Federal Government Shutdown Gave GOP A Boost For 2014 Elections
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Old 06-01-2014, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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VA funding was increased 78 percent since 2008. The VA scandal has nothing to do with lack of funds and everything to do with an incompetent executive, corrupt career bureaucrats, and mindless partisan hacks who want to change or deflect from the real problem.

Signed, a veteran.
If medical care is not timely due to lack of doctors and providers, would not funding pay salaries for more doctors and healthcare providers?

Could you show us the investigation report indicating this? I'll be happy to read your report on which you based your above assertion on.

Are you saying that veterans, such as yourself, didn't want that bill to pass and that you do not want, or need, more funding?
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Old 06-01-2014, 08:50 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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No...Dems attached waaayyyy too much pork to the bill. It needed to be cleaned up before passing and Dems don't want to kick out their pet projects.

IMHO, no bill should even be considered that has anything within same that is not critical to the purpose of that bill. Each bill should stand alone, have a sunset date where it has to be reconsidered regardless of its purpose and never have any outside pork or other crap attached. That's the only way we are ever going to clean up the mess in Washington, D.C.
And what pork was that exactly?
Seems to me that it was the GOP that wanted to add unrelated pork to the bill. They wanted cut the amount dedicated to the troops and add Iran sanctions to it - as per FOX News.

"...The showdown came after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., refused to allow votes on a GOP amendment slicing the bill's size and adding sanctions on Tehran for its nuclear program...."

This part of the bill (in particular) would have been pretty useful considering the backlog that was taking place:

"...The VA would have been given more tools to eat into its backlog of 390,000 benefit claims awaiting action for more than 125 days. ..."

Senate blocks Dems' bill boosting vets' benefits | Fox News

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Old 06-01-2014, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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You mean the democratic shut down because they would not delay Obamacare. And after refusing to delay it then our dear leader delayed it which is illegal . So Obama did not want a legal delay he wanted todo it himself

Deflection and a bad one at that. Take this crap to a your own thread!
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Old 06-01-2014, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Really! I thought Harry Reid and the Dems had the majority vote in the Senate!
Perhaps you might consider actually reading something on this topic. There are plenty of links concerning this matter, posted on this thread.
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Old 06-01-2014, 08:53 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Isn't this the same bill that had illegal alien amnesty attached to it.
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Old 06-01-2014, 08:54 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Give it up. Cruz takes full credit for the shutdown. He wants the credit. Don't go trying to take it away from him now.

Cruz: Federal Government Shutdown Gave GOP A Boost For 2014 Elections
Yeah, it cracks me up how wingnut posters here are trying to avoid responsibility for the shutdown when the very GOP guy who ENGINEERED it is CROWING ABOUT IT.

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Old 06-01-2014, 08:55 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Isn't this the same bill that had illegal alien amnesty attached to it.
Not that I'm aware of. FOX News certainly didn't report that (and they are not exactly fans if illegal aliens).

Ken
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Old 06-01-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The bill was about tuition assistance and job training. Stop lying and pretending that you care about veterans.
It was mostly about healthcare. Why do you make assertions about what you know nothing about?

This is the name of the bill:
S. 1950: Comprehensive Veterans Health and Benefits and Military Retirement Pay Restoration Act of 2014

Full Title
A bill to improve the provision of medical services and benefits to veterans, and for other purposes.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s1950
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Old 06-01-2014, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's pretty obvious to me that neither side cares enough to put their petty politics and graft to the side.
The government will NOT take care of you. Funding citizen programs is at the bottom of their list.
And they will commit fraud and deceit to cover up even with our oversight committees.
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