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The government is doing the same thing. Government is some people's religion. It is the government acting just like those enforcing their views elsewhere.
it is an extremely unimportant issue. issues that concern me are financial security for my fellow man. liberals don't like that too much.
That is why you have hardly any posts on this thread...not important. LOL. Sure a cake by itself may not seem like a big deal. The concept is very important though as it can affect future transactions if correct application of law is ignored now.
The couple that is discriminated against today about a cake can be discriminated against tomorrow when they are making a living will, buying a home, a vehicle, insurance, pre-arranging with a cemetery for end of life, and several other important matters. This is my last attempt at principle, law, facts, logic and reason prevailing over prejudice for some posters here. I suspect some posters just despise gays and no amount of reason will matter, but some of us at least tried. The concept is important. Goodbye.
Would you be OK with car dealerships, realty firms and insurance agents that refuse service to gays?
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Other things that are strictly forbidden in the bible: tatoos, pork, shaving, going to church after an Orchiectomy, remarrying after divorce, working on the sabboth, women speaking in church, shrimp, etc.....
Yes, the Torah (Old Testament) had a lot of laws that do not fit today because they only applied to the context of that time period. There were logical and cultural reasons as to why the anceint Jews had to follow those laws, but that is a discussion for another time and I don't think you're really interested in understanding it.
The New Testament does not abolish the law, but fulfills it, we are to respect it but we not bound by it. To put it simple, The Old Testament is for Teaching and The New Testament is for Living.However sins are sins, Lying is a sin, Theft is a sin, Adultery is a sin, and Homosexuality is a sin, and it states that it is so in both the Old and the New Testament. However God's Love and Grace is open to everyone, we're all sinners in our own way, the homosexual simply has a different sin than I do but they still need salvation.
Just because some of the laws of The Old Testament don't make any sense today doesn't mean that it makes all behaviors listed as okay. Is adultery okay? Is theft okay? Is murder okay? Obviously not.
That is why you have hardly any posts on this thread. LOL. Sure a cake by itself may not seem like a big deal. The concept is very important though.
The couple that is discriminated against today about a cake can be discriminated tomorrow when they are making a living will, buying a home, a vehicle, insurance, pre-arranging with a cemetery for end of life, and several other important matters. Important.
no. they aren't a "couple." they are two people. the institution of marriage is discriminatory as a general rule. buying a home and a car? jesus christ. credit is credit. get over it. "moveon."
Yes, the Torah (Old Testament) had a lot of laws that do not fit today because they only applied to the context of that time period. There were logical and cultural reasons as to why the anceint Jews had to follow those laws, but that is a discussion for another time and I don't think you're really interested in understanding it.
The New Testament does not abolish the law, but fulfills it, we are to respect it but we not bound by it. To put it simple, The Old Testament is for Teaching and The New Testament is for Living.However sins are sins, Lying is a sin, Theft is a sin, Adultery is a sin, and Homosexuality is a sin, and it states that it is so in both the Old and the New Testament. However God's Love and Grace is open to everyone, we're all sinners in our own way, the homosexual simply has a different sin than I do but they still need salvation.
Just because some of the laws of The Old Testament don't make any sense today doesn't mean that it makes all behaviors listed as okay. Is adultery okay? Is theft okay? Is murder okay? Obviously not.
Then that Christian baker "with a conscience' should either deny all sinners service or serve all sinners. To cherry pick his sinners for denial of service is discrimination.
That is why you have hardly any posts on this thread...not important. LOL. Sure a cake by itself may not seem like a big deal. The concept is very important though as it can affect future transactions if correct application of law is ignored now.
The couple that is discriminated against today about a cake can be discriminated against tomorrow when they are making a living will, buying a home, a vehicle, insurance, pre-arranging with a cemetery for end of life, and several other important matters. This is my last attempt at facts, logic and reason prevailing over prejudice for some posters here. I suspect some posters just despise gays and no amount of reason will matter, but some of us at least tried. The concept is important. Goodbye.
Would you be OK with car dealerships, realty firms and insurance agents that refuse service to gays?
Yes, the Torah (Old Testament) had a lot of laws that do not fit today because they only applied to the context of that time period. There were logical and cultural reasons as to why the anceint Jews had to follow those laws, but that is a discussion for another time and I don't think you're really interested in understanding it.
The New Testament does not abolish the law, but fulfills it, we are to respect it but we not bound by it. To put it simple, The Old Testament is for Teaching and The New Testament is for Living.However sins are sins, Lying is a sin, Theft is a sin, Adultery is a sin, and Homosexuality is a sin, and it states that it is so in both the Old and the New Testament. However God's Love and Grace is open to everyone, we're all sinners in our own way, the homosexual simply has a different sin than I do but they still need salvation.
Just because some of the laws of The Old Testament don't make any sense today doesn't mean that it makes all behaviors listed as okay. Is adultery okay? Is theft okay? Is murder okay? Obviously not.
The New Testament has laws that Christians don't follow, either.
Must be nice to cherry-pick like that. .
'I'll take this law but not that one...it's inconvenient for me`'
The New Testament has laws that Christians don't follow, either.
Must be nice to cherry-pick like that. .
'I'll take this law but not that one...it's inconvenient for me`'
"I love democracy." the people of california have voted down gay marriage. "I hate democracy. courts, lawyers. wahhhhhh wahhhhh."
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