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Old 07-16-2014, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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This really opened my eyes. $1815/month is considered poor and qualified for food stamp:

Nothing new here. The first food stamp program was implemented in 1943. Eligibility has been tied to the Federal Poverty Level ( FPL) for decades.

Generally speaking eligibility is limited to households with gross incomes of no more than 130% of FPL .Although states can and do increase the threshold. DC uses 200% of FPL. My state uses 130%.

Regardless, 83% of recipients have incomes at or beneath 100% FPL and these households receive 91% of all SNAP benefits.

70% of recipient households have at least one elderly, or child or disabled person.

The benefit for a single eligible recipient is about $102.month.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm pretty sure that is false. Southern states have the highest SNAP usage because they have the least education and lowest income. Take Owsley County, Kentucky for example, that place is 96% white, 81% Republican, and was in the top 3 for SNAP usage.
Immigrant (legal and illegal) use of welfare has been high going back at least a decade.
We've been importing poverty from third world nations for quite some time now.
How do you like your crow..baked, broiled or BBQ'd
FYI..Hispanics are classified as Whites now. You have to dig deeper to get the Non-Hispanic White figure if you're going to talk about whites only. But I'm not here..immigrants vs native citizens so I don't see what your comment about Whites in Kentucky has anything to do with citizenship.


Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children | Center for Immigration Studies

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Old 07-16-2014, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Nothing new here. The first food stamp program was implemented in 1943. Eligibility has been tied to the Federal Poverty Level ( FPL) for decades.

Generally speaking eligibility is limited to households with gross incomes of no more than 130% of FPL .Although states can and do increase the threshold. DC uses 200% of FPL. My state uses 130%.

Regardless, 83% of recipients have incomes at or beneath 100% FPL and these households receive 91% of all SNAP benefits.

70% of recipient households have at least one elderly, or child or disabled person.

The benefit for a single eligible recipient is about $102.month.
This is all correct. Its why snap isn't something that needs to go away. The "don't have children" or "get a job" chant is short sighted and ill informed.

I have said I believe food stamps should be restricted. Buying coke and potato chips doesn't seem like nutritional use of the public money. But not revocation.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:49 PM
 
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Immigrant (legal and illegal) use of welfare has been high going back at least a decade.
We've been importing poverty from third world nations for quite some time now.


Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children | Center for Immigration Studies
The only thing that shows is that as a % of those types of households. It doesn't indicate who the largest usage of them are.

If a left handed, red headed, blue eyed, american citizen with the last name of hoftsteader used welfare, by your argument we would then say he was the largest user of welfare in the United states.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:53 PM
 
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This is all correct. Its why snap isn't something that needs to go away. The "don't have children" or "get a job" chant is short sighted and ill informed.

I have said I believe food stamps should be restricted. Buying coke and potato chips doesn't seem like nutritional use of the public money. But not revocation.
Its always easy to be generous with someone elses money.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:57 PM
 
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Its always easy to be generous with someone elses money.
Yes because we as a nation need malnutrition to be more common.

Why do you assume he isnt being generous with his? Maybe his tax money goes to feeding children, while yours helps pay for another aircraft carrier. Both are kinda cool.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The only thing that shows is that as a % of those types of households. It doesn't indicate who the largest usage of them are.

If a left handed, red headed, blue eyed, american citizen with the last name of hoftsteader used welfare, by your argument we would then say he was the largest user of welfare in the United states.
Well if you bothered to read the linked article then you'd see the number...62.9 million were on welfare in 2009.

Now go do that math....

And here's a further breakdown of "Hispanic immigrant" by country:


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Old 07-16-2014, 06:00 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure that is false. Southern states have the highest SNAP usage because they have the least education and lowest income. Take Owsley County, Kentucky for example, that place is 96% white, 81% Republican, and was in the top 3 for SNAP usage.
The report HT posted seems to list numbers by state for Cat eligibility 2011. CA,FL. TX, NY look the highest. This is what was listed for KY.
Kentucky 374


Florida 1,659
California 1,603
Texas 1,601
New York 1,573
Michigan 964
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Eastwood, Orlando FL
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I usually stay of of political debates but I would like to point out that 100 million dollars worth of food stamps were used on military bases in 2013. Are those people lazy too?
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:02 PM
 
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Immigrant (legal and illegal) use of welfare has been high going back at least a decade.
We've been importing poverty from third world nations for quite some time now.
How do you like your crow..baked, broiled or BBQ'd



Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children | Center for Immigration Studies
That's not really backing up your point, I would explain why, but you are a math teacher, so you should know why.

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FYI..Hispanics are classified as Whites now. You have to dig deeper to get the Non-Hispanic White figure if you're going to talk about whites only. But I'm not here..immigrants vs native citizens so I don't see what your comment about Whites in Kentucky has anything to do with citizenship.
The area I referenced is 97.4% non Hispanic white. My comment was partly a response to you and partly a response to Goinback.

Owsley County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
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