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Old 07-24-2014, 01:19 PM
 
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Some good Bush did in going in there with "shock and awe" so sure that the ideology was going to be permanently changed. "Spread Democracy", he said was the goal. Absolutely worthless, ineffective, wasteful effort. Bush left that place worse than when he entered. This is not the fault of our great President Obama.

If this country is not willing to stop the "genocide" by Israel in Gaza, we have no business in Iraq. The US can't police the world, especially when our country is being decimated by Dixie Conservatism.

Bush did not leave 'that place' worse than when he entered.
President Obama is the one who left "that place".
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:21 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Some good Bush did in going in there with "shock and awe" so sure that the ideology was going to be permanently changed. "Spread Democracy", he said was the goal. Absolutely worthless, ineffective, wasteful effort. Bush left that place worse than when he entered. This is not the fault of our great President Obama.

If this country is not willing to stop the "genocide" by Israel in Gaza, we have no business in Iraq. The US can't police the world, especially when our country is being decimated by Dixie Conservatism.
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You've exposed your bias, right there. You're an anti-Semite. Doubtless a bigot in other regards, as well.
Oh, it's worse. He's called Obama his "God" here before... no joke.

Not worth bothering with.
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:22 PM
 
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Bush did not leave 'that place' worse than when he entered.
President Obama is the one who left "that place".
Really? You mean Iraq's infrastructure was bombed to hell BEFORE Bush took office?

More rightwing rewriting of history. Before you know it, they'll have the Iraq invasion beginning on the morning of January 21, 2009.
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:23 PM
 
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Post the denial from ISIS.
Don't have an actual denial.

On the other hand, more and more news outlets are saying it's a hoax.

Are you going to spend days telling us how this tweet really did come from ISIS? Are lost causes your thing?
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:24 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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And here it is again, that crazy rightwing meme that everything was going swimmingly in Iraq until Obama took office. The only "progress" in Iraq was that we were getting out of it.

I'll grant you that there definitely was "gross incompetence and ineptitude," and that was going into Iraq with the infantile idea that we could conquer the country in six weeks, be greeted as liberators, and install western style democracy, but those were wholly on the part of the previous administration.

Anything and everything else is rightwing, rewriting history Fantasyland.
No, Obama knew what he was getting into. He ran anyway.

His administration was warned two years ago about this ISIS issue. The warnings were ignored.

But you believe he can do no wrong... so it's not others who are living in fantasyland.
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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Don't have an actual denial.
Exactly.
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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These extremist Muslims want to mutilate all females in Iraq. Where is the public outcry in the USA ?

BBC News - Isis 'ordering female genital mutilation' in Iraq - UN
The same USA that allows male genital mutilation?
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:28 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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The same USA that allows male genital mutilation?
Is the purpose of it to prevent sexual pleasure and climax? Do not many do it for health reasons or cosmetic, whether you believe that or not?

Idiotic comparison.
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:30 PM
 
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Really? You mean Iraq's infrastructure was bombed to hell BEFORE Bush took office?

More rightwing rewriting of history. Before you know it, they'll have the Iraq invasion beginning on the morning of January 21, 2009.
Who was talking about infrastructure? The topic is ISIS in Iraq now. Well, I suppose you could bring them into the destroying infrastructure part.
Who was president of the Untied States when it left Iraq? President Obama.
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:30 PM
 
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No, Obama knew what he was getting into. He ran anyway.

His administration was warned two years ago about this ISIS issue. The warnings were ignored.
So you are of the opinion that we should stay in Iraq indefinitely?

The Bush invasion created a power vacuum that was going to be filled by something. Too bad that administration was too stupid to see that to begin with, and had absolutely no exit plan whatsoever. Oh, they had all the shock and awe and mission accomplished and the spectacular media manipulation of landing on an aircraft carrier in full flight gear all down pat, but what to do AFTER they destroyed the country? Not a clue.

Talk about running away. They left the mess for the next guy.

Bush broke Iraq. What follows is all his. No amount of rightwing revisionist history will change that.
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