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Old 07-29-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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Not everyone who has contact with someone infected with Ebola contracts Ebola. It's not a cold. It's not the flu. The hospitals where people are treated for Ebola aren't burned down. The plane with an Ebola-infected patient hasn't been incinerated. What's going on here? You are telling us that everyone on that plane should be infected. After all, not only was Patrick Sawyer clearly symptomatic, he was vomiting and had diarrhea. The air on the plane is recycled, so, according to you, it should be crawling with Ebola, and every person on that plane will be infected.

Except that's not the case.
The incubation period is up to 21 days; we don't know yet if any or all of the other passengers are infected. Can only pray that they aren't, because they've now gone on to who knows how many countries...

 
Old 07-29-2014, 03:13 PM
 
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The incubation period is up to 21 days; we don't know yet if any or all of the other passengers are infected. Can only pray that they aren't, because they've now gone on to who knows how many countries...
Send em wipes.............all across the world that will save us all...........lol
 
Old 07-29-2014, 03:16 PM
 
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Meanwhile, glad to see aid efforts are appreciated and the doctors lost their lives for good reason....not.

Back in Guinea, in the village of Wabengou, residents placed a tree in the road to block outsiders. They also attacked an official delegation from Conakry, rushing its cars, banging on the vehicles and brandishing machetes, according to Doctors Without Borders.

“We don’t want them in there at all,” said Wabengou’s chief, Marcel Dambadounou. “We don’t accept their presence at all. They are the transporters of the virus in these communities.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/28/wo...inea.html?_r=0

I'll ask again, maybe someone can explain it to me because I sure as hell can't understand it - WHY are the aid workers still there with all this going on??? WHY not just let them have.what.they.want. and leave them there alone to deal with their diseases if that's what they seem to wish for so much?! Why are they being treated like babies who don't know what's good for them??!! These are whole nations of grown able-bodied people we're talking about!! AND we're placing other countries at risk for that.
Just. Don't. Understand.
 
Old 07-29-2014, 03:19 PM
 
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So now it's "after" an outbreak? How bout before? Your wipes will take care of it all though don't worry.
The question is whether disinfectant is effective against the Ebola virus.

You claimed in an earlier post that it is not.

And when asked why you made such a claim, you've danced, you've spinned, you've waved your hands, you've been insulting.............essentially you've done everything except answer the simple question.

Disinfectants are effective against the Ebola virus. Do you concur?
 
Old 07-29-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Meanwhile, glad to see aid efforts are appreciated and the doctors lost their lives for good reason....not.

Back in Guinea, in the village of Wabengou, residents placed a tree in the road to block outsiders. They also attacked an official delegation from Conakry, rushing its cars, banging on the vehicles and brandishing machetes, according to Doctors Without Borders.

“We don’t want them in there at all,” said Wabengou’s chief, Marcel Dambadounou. “We don’t accept their presence at all. They are the transporters of the virus in these communities.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/28/wo...inea.html?_r=0

I'll ask again, maybe someone can explain it to me because I sure as hell can't understand it - WHY are the aid workers still there with all this going on??? WHY not just let them have.what.they.want. and leave them there alone to deal with their diseases if that's what they seem to wish for so much?! Why are they being treated like babies who don't know what's good for them??!! These are whole nations of grown able-bodied people we're talking about!! AND we're placing other countries at risk for that.
Just. Don't. Understand.
Aside from the humanitarian aspects, there is a strong practical reason that they are there. Relatively small outbreaks are FAR more easily contained than large ones. IF a small outbreak is allowed to become a large and rampant outbreak the chances of someone spreading it elsewhere - including HERE - become a WHOLE LOT greater.

Ken
 
Old 07-29-2014, 03:22 PM
 
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The question is whether disinfectant is effective against the Ebola virus.

You claimed in an earlier post that it is not.

And when asked why you made such a claim, you've danced, you've spinned, you've waved your hands, you've been insulting.............essentially you've done everything except answer the simple question.

Disinfectants are effective against the Ebola virus. Do you concur?
My knees don't dance or spin anymore............or knock down jumpers. You are fine you have your wipes so all is well.
 
Old 07-29-2014, 03:23 PM
 
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Aside from the humanitarian aspects, there is a strong practical reason that they are there. Relatively small outbreaks are FAR more easily contained than large ones. IF a small outbreak is allowed to become a large and rampant outbreak the chances of someone spreading it elsewhere - including HERE - become a WHOLE LOT greater.

Ken
Yes and why it needs to be contained like you say. Some think a wipe will just clean er all up.
 
Old 07-29-2014, 03:23 PM
 
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My knees don't dance or spin anymore............or knock down jumpers. You are fine you have your wipes so all is well.
Not answering the question. You say you don't spin, but that's what you're doing. Just answer the question. Is disinfectant effective against the Ebola virus? YES or no.
 
Old 07-29-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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Aside from the humanitarian aspects, there is a strong practical reason that they are there. Relatively small outbreaks are FAR more easily contained than large ones. IF a small outbreak is allowed to become a large and rampant outbreak the chances of someone spreading it elsewhere - including HERE - become a WHOLE LOT greater.

Ken
That's why you ban travel to these regions. Let it burn itself out.
The vast majority of the population there is too remote and poor to be getting on a plane regardless. It's much more likely to spread with all the international workers travelling back and forth. Left alone, with some strict travel restrictions, it would likely stay contained to the region and not get outside the continent.
 
Old 07-29-2014, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Aside from the humanitarian aspects, there is a strong practical reason that they are there. Relatively small outbreaks are FAR more easily contained than large ones. IF a small outbreak is allowed to become a large and rampant outbreak the chances of someone spreading it elsewhere - including HERE - become a WHOLE LOT greater.

Ken
This outbreak is already the largest in history.
If Sawyer hadn't stopped over to attend his sister's funeral he could have made it back to the US before falling ill. Up to 21 day incubation period.

Never say never as they say.

Since Sawyer's death they have tightened security.
Let's hope it works.
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