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Old 08-06-2014, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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Many on these forums have opined that our dead veterans died persecuting the unfortunate citizens of lesser capable countries and that our wounded veterans are living off the welfare programs of the VA funded by their tax dollars. Complaints have also been parroted that business and corporations have done little in the area of educating and training of a workforce.

Let's work to bring back the Draft.

As a nation, we should require that everyone between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five serve three years of military service. This means both male and female citizens.

We can cut benefits. We can only benefit those who are directly involved in a combat action or actually injured in performance of their military duties.

The military can provide a myriad of educational and job training opportunities to our young people. The Navy has most probably the very best in electronics training opportunities available anywhere. All branches of the military train in HVAC, electrician skills, plumbing, carpentry, diesel mechanics, vehicular repair, nursing, X-ray technology, ultrasound technology, dental hygiene, etc., etc. This would reinforce and enhance any and all of our young peoples' opportunities for employment in the private sector.

We could actually secure our nation's own borders utilizing our military as many other countries now do. Such a move would require less numbers of high-salaried federal Border Patrol agents.

You claim the all-volunteer army attracts better educated personnel? Not so. If EVERYONE served three years then even these better educated would serve as well.
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:02 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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The military can provide a myriad of educational and job training opportunities to our young people. The Navy has most probably the very best in electronics training opportunities available anywhere. All branches of the military train in HVAC, electrician skills, plumbing, carpentry, diesel mechanics, vehicular repair, nursing, X-ray technology, ultrasound technology, dental hygiene, etc., etc. This would reinforce and enhance any and all of our young peoples' opportunities for employment in the private sector.
And if someone prefers to learn these skills (or others) at a college or university. I know its hard to believe, but education isn't just about useful skills like unclogging a toilet. We actually need people who can write, analyze, do accounting, etc.

So are you one of those "freedom loving" conservatives? Freedom. And involuntary conscription.
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:06 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Nope. Sorry. Once you're drafted or volunteer for service you're Uncle Sam's property. No thanks! I'm nobody's pawn! Now, I don't have a problem helping vets, given our warmongers at the top put these people in harms way in the first place trying to use our military as the world police.
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:09 AM
 
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This is about what Israel does.....everyone serves....it works well for them.
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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And if someone prefers to learn these skills (or others) at a college or university. I know its hard to believe, but education isn't just about useful skills like unclogging a toilet. We actually need people who can write, analyze, do accounting, etc.

So are you one of those "freedom loving" conservatives? Freedom. And involuntary conscription.
You can learn accounting in the military too. The beauty part is you won't have a mountain of student loan debt when you get out. Indeed, I am for equality and fairness. You should have learned to write before you finished middle school.
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:11 AM
 
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Nope. Sorry. Once you're drafted or volunteer for service you're Uncle Sam's property. No thanks! I'm nobody's pawn! Now, I don't have a problem helping vets, given our warmongers at the top put these people in harms way in the first place trying to use our military as the world police.
If you grew up always knowing that was the deal you would feel differently.
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:17 AM
 
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The military can provide a myriad of educational and job training opportunities to our young people. The Navy has most probably the very best in electronics training opportunities available anywhere. All branches of the military train in HVAC, electrician skills, plumbing, carpentry, diesel mechanics, vehicular repair, nursing, X-ray technology, ultrasound technology, dental hygiene, etc., etc. This would reinforce and enhance any and all of our young peoples' opportunities for employment in the private sector.
The veteran unemployment rate is around 10%. This isn't new either, veteran's have always fared poorly with private sector employment.
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I think 18 yr olds should have 3 choices.

1. Go to college
2. Go to the military
3. Go to work making more than minimum wage if you have a family. If you can't do 3, you resort to 2.
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:20 AM
 
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You can learn accounting in the military too. The beauty part is you won't have a mountain of student loan debt when you get out. Indeed, I am for equality and fairness. You should have learned to write before you finished middle school.
Which is useful for the military, but not private practice.

Unless you are saying people should join the military to get the college education they pay for.
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:23 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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I think 18 yr olds should have 3 choices.

1. Go to college
2. Go to the military
3. Go to work making more than minimum wage if you have a family. If you can't do 3, you resort to 2.

Right. It should be a choice, as it is now.
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