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Being a Jew does not require them to agree with everything the state of Israel wants. I'm an American, and I view the actions of our government as wrongful all the time. I don't care if they represent my country; I don't have to agree with it.
Yes, heck, there is recognized "loyal opposition" even among Jews in Israel.
Perhaps for their kind we need a thread asking why American Jews are so disloyal to America, eh?
Then just go ahead and do it..... who's stopping you? Afraid of the ridicule? :roll eyes:
Greek Americans feel a tie to Greece, Italian Americans feel a tie to Italy, Mexicans feel a tie to Mexico, Cubans to Cuba..... A Jew feels a tie to Israel and they're disloyal.
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Then just go ahead and do it..... who's stopping you? Afraid of the ridicule? :roll eyes:
Greek Americans feel a tie to Greece, Italian Americans feel a tie to Italy, Mexicans feel a tie to Mexico, Cubans to Cuba..... A Jew feels a tie to Israel and they're disloyal.
I love your rules on life.
Really?
Do those Greek/Italian/Mexican Americans volunteer and join the armies of those respective countries while ignoring the American army?
Or do you just enjoy comparing apples and oranges?
BTW, perhaps you learn the difference between a nationality and a religion, eh?
The population density of Gaza is about the same as Boston....
You need to differentiate between Gaza City and Gaza Strip (as New York City vs. New York State). So for comparison city to city is correct. But for CITY density it does not even hit the Top 50 on the planet (#1 is Manila at 111,000). Gaza City is about 13k (per sq mi). Jerusalem beats it out at 16k, Tel Aviv is 20k and NYC is 27k.
And if you're going to throw in being fenced in; then the Warsaw Ghetto was 114k.
I quit reading right here. Who on earth are you to tell Jews how they should feel? About anything? What law anywhere exists to tell Jews that they must love Israel?
Any discussion that starts from such an offensive statement - well, as I said, I'm off the boat.
Because AMERICAN Jews like THEIR country just fine thank you.
Why are AMERICAN conservatives obsessed with a backwater theocracy in the middle of a desert region that has been at war for thousands and thousands of years?
Why do AMERICAN Christian conservatives HATE their own country?
In case you don't remember The United States was founded on the basis of freedom of religion over 200 years ago, so having relations and even supporting despotic theocracies like Israel and Saudi Arabia is a huge step backwards.
Jews are supposed to love Israel. It is their homeland and a safe haven should Jews' existence ever be threatened such as it was during the Holocaust. Yet time and again American Jews vote for the political party that refuses to recognize Israel's very right to existence, let alone her right to defend herself. It's no secret that the Democrat Party is overtly anti-white, anti-Christian, and anti-capitalist, but many people seem to be unaware of or unwilling to acknowledge the fact that the Democrats are covertly becoming more and more anti-Semitic and and hostile to the State of Israel.
As Democrats drive mainstream white voters from the party due to their anti-White racism and anti-capitalism, those typically Jewish-friendly, pro-Israel voters are being replaced with anti-Semitic, anti-Israel pro-Islamist elements. In other words, as the purge of mainstream Americans from the Democrat Party voter base commences, the Democrats are left with white liberal academics who are virulently anti-Israel, black and brown people who are virulently anti-Semitic, and Muslims who bow down to Hitler and want to exterminate every Jew on Earth. If it hasn't happened already, the ever-shrinking Jewish-friendly, pro-Israel minority within the Democrat Party will be thrown under the bus in favor of the growing anti-Semitic, anti-Israel majority that comprises the Democrat voter base, especially once the need for Jewish money has diminished.
Yet time and again, American Jews line up like lambs to the slaughter to vote for the party whose voting base is comprised of the ideological descendents of Hitler and the Nazis. How could American Jews be so stupid and naive as to vote not once, but twice for Barack 'Hamas' Obama, the most Israel-hostile President this country has ever had? Barack Hussein Obama treats Islamist and terrorists with higher regard than PM Netanyahu. He surrounds himself with anti-Israel zealots who give aid and comfort to Hamas and Islamists all over the globe. Republicans always proclaim that Israel has the right to defend themselves, period. At best Democrats will say, "Israel has the right to defend themselves, but...". But, what? But nothing. Anyone who says but is a covert anti-Semite and an enemy to the State of Israel.
Which brings us back to American Jews. How can you time and again vote for this party which would just as soon deny you your rights to life, liberty, and property because of your Jewish religion?
This an extremely simplistic and ignorant view of the complex history of Jews in America.
BTW, do you think that the Conservatives' blacklisting and condemnation of Jews and general anti-semitism during the paranoid McCarthy period has anything to do with it? You know, ruining their lives, careers and futures due to rampant conservative paranoia that sparked a massive witch hunt?
This an extremely simplistic and ignorant view of the complex history of Jews in America.
BTW, do you think that the Conservatives' blacklisting and condemnation of Jews and general anti-semitism during the paranoid McCarthy period has anything to do with it? You know, ruining their lives, careers and futures due to rampant conservative paranoia that sparked a massive witch hunt?
Is this evidence of anti-Semitism though? It's no secret Communism was largely a Jewish dominated ideology in the 20th century....if you're hunting for Communists it's only mathematically likely you're going to end up targeting Jews.
Nice try, but no, thank you. I will not vote for bible-thumpers.
Romney was a bible-thumper? Curious.
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In a word, values. Jews tend to vote for social justice, school funding, women's rights, environment, peace, you know, all the stuff that republicans hate. Israel is second.
What a bunch of rubbish.
One could just as well turn around and say freedom, hard work, personal responsibility, liberty and accountability are things Democrats hate.
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