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Old 08-16-2014, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by Workin_Hard View Post
In too many cases, academia is the employment refuge of the incapable.
And the insane! Bill Ayers and Bernadine DOHrn (former terrorists)

Here's the really absurd part of this story:

UCSB Professor Sentenced to Probation, Anger Management in Abortion Confrontation

Hill said that Miller-Young had a tremendous number of positive letters and references and no criminal record. Because of her position at the university, "she's getting the kind of scrutiny that the average defendant would not get," he said.

"I have no question that she's of impeccable character outside of this incident," he said:

Hill ultimately sentenced Miller-Young to serve her community service in conflict-resolution workshops run by the Quaker Church, 10 hours of anger management and $493 in restitution to the Shorts, which was paid in court Friday.
http://www.noozhawk.com/article/ucsb...ger_management

So that would be a liberal CA judge, defending a liberal CSU professor, and giving her a slap on the wrist; "she's getting the kind of leniency that the average defendant would not get" would be more honest. Last time I checked, hitting a child was a mandatory jail term.

She freaking incited a violent mob, and attacked two students (one a 16 yr. minor), on a public funded campus that she works at! Jeez... impeccable character my ass!

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Old 08-16-2014, 12:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by steven_h View Post
And the insane! Bill Ayers and Bernadine DOHrn (former terrorists)

Here's the really absurd part of this story:

UCSB Professor Sentenced to Probation, Anger Management in Abortion Confrontation

Hill said that Miller-Young had a tremendous number of positive letters and references and no criminal record. Because of her position at the university, "she's getting the kind of scrutiny that the average defendant would not get," he said.

"I have no question that she's of impeccable character outside of this incident," he said:

Hill ultimately sentenced Miller-Young to serve her community service in conflict-resolution workshops run by the Quaker Church, 10 hours of anger management and $493 in restitution to the Shorts, which was paid in court Friday.
UCSB Professor Sentenced to Probation, Anger Management in Abortion Confrontation

So that would be a liberal CA judge, defending a liberal CSU professor, and giving her a slap on the wrist.

She freaking incited a violent mob, and attacked two students, on a public funded campus that she works at! Jeez... impeccable character my ass!


Lol.....the 10 hours of anger management is really going to cut into the time she jills off to porn in order to keep up her "professor of porn" certification:
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Old 08-16-2014, 12:20 PM
 
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In too many cases, academia is the employment refuge of the incapable.
Let's be honest here too: classes taught by professors like this are a refuge for politically-like-minded non-merit admits who can go in and get their diploma without having a GPA shot down the toilet by competing with merit admits for grades doing real coursework. There's a reason the focus on STEM and practical coursework have shot up so much and it's the devaluing of the liberal arts as an indicator of quality due to both degree inflation and the proliferation of teachers like this who get the kids who don't belong at an institution in the first place out the door with higher on-paper marks than the students doing actual learning. Which is a shame because you totally can have a rigorous humanities or social-sciences education which can serve as an effective indicator of quality, it just loses its value as a credential because you don't know who has been loading up their coursework with useless gut-courses taught by professors like this one without digging through transcripts, and employers don't want to put that much effort into screening every candidate.
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Old 08-16-2014, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Let's be honest here too: classes taught by professors like this are a refuge for politically-like-minded non-merit admits who can go in and get their diploma without having a GPA shot down the toilet by competing with merit admits for grades doing real coursework. There's a reason the focus on STEM and practical coursework have shot up so much and it's the devaluing of the liberal arts as an indicator of quality due to both degree inflation and the proliferation of teachers like this who get the kids who don't belong at an institution in the first place out the door with higher on-paper marks than the students doing actual learning. Which is a shame because you totally can have a rigorous humanities or social-sciences education which can serve as an effective indicator of quality, it just loses its value as a credential because you don't know who has been loading up their coursework with useless gut-courses taught by professors like this one without digging through transcripts, and employers don't want to put that much effort into screening every candidate.
It's about the same as Underwater Basket Weaving with a minor in ice sculpting. The "progressive" nature of courses in Universities is becoming more like mail order degrees.

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Lol.....the 10 hours of anger management is really going to cut into the time she jills off to porn in order to keep up her "professor of porn" certification:
Talk about a twisted use of work experience to hit up the people for a tenured 6 figure retirement. I wonder how Professors who spent decades mastering their legitimate fields of study feel about such nonsensical courses.
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Old 08-16-2014, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Let's be honest here too: classes taught by professors like this are a refuge for politically-like-minded non-merit admits who can go in and get their diploma without having a GPA shot down the toilet by competing with merit admits for grades doing real coursework. There's a reason the focus on STEM and practical coursework have shot up so much and it's the devaluing of the liberal arts as an indicator of quality due to both degree inflation and the proliferation of teachers like this who get the kids who don't belong at an institution in the first place out the door with higher on-paper marks than the students doing actual learning. Which is a shame because you totally can have a rigorous humanities or social-sciences education which can serve as an effective indicator of quality, it just loses its value as a credential because you don't know who has been loading up their coursework with useless gut-courses taught by professors like this one without digging through transcripts, and employers don't want to put that much effort into screening every candidate.
The focus has shot up but Americans are shunning those programs in mass.
Foreigners fill up the seats in STEM classes.

Americans fill up the seats in esoteric liberal arts majors.
And then they wonder why they can't get jobs with their degree.

Sure these degrees are nice. They make you intellectual and broadly educated.
But unless you are rich these same degrees are needed to get a job.

Sadly those with degrees such as a Bachelors of Puppetry aren't going to find many high paying openings.
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Old 08-16-2014, 01:14 PM
 
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Based only on the content within this link, I found no reference to slavery being the root cause of her behavior.

Did I miss something?
Did she deny it?

No?

Then when her lawyer and supporters make those statements its as if she made those statements.
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Old 08-16-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Did she deny it?

No?

Then when her lawyer and supporters make those statements its as if she made those statements.
Accurate and ethical thread title:

Professor does not deny statements of supporters. Not known if she was asked to affirm or deny, but she herself did not claim slavery made her do it.

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Old 08-16-2014, 02:26 PM
 
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Supporters of Mireille Miller-Young cite the "cultural legacy of slavery" and even the effects of pregnancy to explain why the feminist studies professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara would accost a teenager spreading a pro-life message on campus.

'Slavery,' pregnancy drove California professor to accost teen pro-lifer, say defenders | Fox News
aawww, too bad, so sad, FIRE HER!!
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Old 08-16-2014, 05:42 PM
 
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Accurate and ethical thread title:

Professor does not deny statements of supporters. Not known if she was asked to affirm or deny, but she herself did not claim slavery made her do it.

Being pregnant made her do it. She is a danger to be around when she is pregnant. How does she keep her job? Tenure.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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In too many cases, academia is the employment refuge of the incapable.
It was said long ago:
"Them what can't DO, teach!"
I, and my kids, were lucky. Mostly, we had TEACHers that were also DOers!
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