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Old 08-21-2014, 03:50 PM
 
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I asked first. How many qualified Black applicants were passed over? If the answer is "None", then it's a non issue. If there were many qualified Black applicants passed over for equally or lesser qualified applicants it should probably be addressed. This is all a diversion at this point anyway to distract from the fact that you backed a losing pony.
You don't know how life works do you.


If you don't have a diverse pool of applicants, you can't just set back and say "no black guys applied, i'm free to hire only whites". I mean you can get that effect by only posting jobs in White Supremacist magazines (for instance) or just advertising on Big Bang Theory.


If your qualified applicants are not diverse than you ask yourself what are you doing wrong. Where are you advertising wrong? is there an issue with the area? is there a cultural issue? etc?

You then fix the process

not ignore it

having a multi-cultural police force might cost you more. . .but your going to save/gain benefits in the long run

 
Old 08-21-2014, 03:50 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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[quote=pollyrobin;36183904]Johnson just said it more colorfully and/or as did Wilson, for them to get on the sidewalk.

Don't avoid the question pollyrobin: The cop had every right to use lethal force if he was attacked by Brown & feared for his life. IF that happened, you would agree he had every right to shoot correct?
 
Old 08-21-2014, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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If Brown was charging will be where the case begins and ends

So sit tight.


I haven't said otherwise, unlike those who've already decided that this cop is a racist and murderer and needs to be locked away.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 03:51 PM
 
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Incorrect; your version of events supporting Brown changes constantly as new evidence is released on refutes your previous claims. Numerous witnesses and Brown's friend Johnson have all been proven liars, and it has been these people that people like you have been relying on for your facts. However, from the original story released by the Ferguson police department, not one single thing has been refuted by the evidence, quite the opposite, it has supported the cops version of events.
What evidence ?

Don't count 'sources' in you answer. That's the trouble for the cop's 'side.' They aren't releasing official info --- transcripts of interviews, non-public video, medical reports, the official autopsy, crime scene forensics. Left with public witness interviews vs. 'sources.'
 
Old 08-21-2014, 03:51 PM
 
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Anyone ever explain this neck grab.

How do you grab a 6'ft 2 guy by the neck from a police car
It was an SUV type of vehicle, higher off the ground than a car.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 03:52 PM
 
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Johnson just said it more colorfully and/or as did Wilson, for them to get on the
sidewalk.

It has yet to be proved that Brown & Johnson were holding up traffic.
They told Wilson they were heading to their nearby destination, and then Wilson grabbed
Brown by the neck.
Johnson also did not deny holding up traffic. Given that he says he was told to get to the sidewalk, he doesn't seem to contest that point.

Why do you need to see verifiable proof of something that is not even being disputed but you don't require that for the central question of the issue? It has not been proven that the officer did anything wrong but you're convinced of that while you demand proof that they actually blocked traffic which has not been disputed.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 03:53 PM
 
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And who is to blame for that? Ferguson is 70% African American but less than 15% are registered voters. So who's to blame for that?
The black community of Ferguson could have forced change by using the ballot box.

The leaders of Ferguson have only themselves to blame for not being more proactive in bringing some diversity to the police force as well as better policing/communication tactics.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Johnson also did not deny holding up traffic. Given that he says he was told to get to the sidewalk, he doesn't seem to contest that point.

Why do you need to see verifiable proof of something that is not even being disputed but you don't require that for the central question of the issue? It has not been proven that the officer did anything wrong but you're convinced of that while you demand proof that they actually blocked traffic which has not been disputed.
Like I said - focusing on the minutiae.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 03:53 PM
 
Location: USA
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There is ONE( at least) public witness account that says he was shot in the back.

What does that tell us now?
He could have been shot AT while he was turned around.


Multiple witnesses said he jerked when he turned around.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 03:54 PM
 
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Don't count 'sources' in you answer. That's the trouble for the cop's 'side.' They aren't releasing official info --- transcripts of interviews, non-public video, medical reports, the official autopsy, crime scene forensics. Left with public witness interviews vs. 'sources.'
They shouldn't on an active case and the public should understand that they don't have all the facts, but that doesn't seem to matter.
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