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Old 08-30-2014, 08:30 AM
 
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I would not mind them keeping the money, if they paid their entry level employees better, they haven't and they won't.
Yes they do. Kids out of college can average 55k a year with a business related degree working in their corporate office. That is entry level.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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It may not be my business, but big corporations are making record profits and I think they can afford to pay their entry level employees a decent wage.
I wish I could live like a king, too.

Perhaps you should refrain from attempting to control other people by enforcing fanciful wishes.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:32 AM
 
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Yes they do. Kids out of college can average 55k a year with a business related degree working in their corporate office. That is entry level.
I'm not referring to college kids, just Joe the entry level employee.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:33 AM
 
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I'm not referring to college kids, just Joe the entry level employee.
What's the value of what they do?
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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I wish I could live like a king, too.

Perhaps you should refrain from attempting to control other people by enforcing fanciful wishes.
I realize many of these ELJ's were not meant to be a career, the price of everything has gone up and wages for ELJ's has not. It would be nice if corporations would voluntarily raise their wages but because of greed, it won't happen.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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I'm not referring to college kids, just Joe the entry level employee.
Joe as in couldn't even graduate highschool. College grads are joe entry level these days. Your argument is that they don't provide good paying entry level jobs. So your admitting your statement was wrong? The jobs are provided, but some people don't have the education required.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:38 AM
 
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What's the value of what they do?
It depends on the cost of living where one lives.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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I realize many of these ELJ's were not meant to be a career, the price of everything has gone up and wages for ELJ's has not. It would be nice if corporations would voluntarily raise their wages but because of greed, it won't happen.
Having written a few paychecks in my life, I'd like to remind you, that the purpose of hiring people is to make a profit. If you cannot make a profit hiring someone, you won't hire someone.

Further, the purpose of being in business is to make a profit.

Given those two facts, your argument seems to be critical of the idea of being in business, without consulting YOU as to what level of profit should be made. Again, explain to me why you think you have ANY right to deny someone a job, because you don't think people with skill sets below a certain value should be employed.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:44 AM
 
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I've been listening, and you're wrong. Always. It's that simple.
Except it isn't an answer just to insult someone...
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:45 AM
 
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Joe as in couldn't even graduate highschool. College grads are joe entry level these days. Your argument is that they don't provide good paying entry level jobs. So your admitting your statement was wrong?
No. Joe the average guy with high school diploma. Look, I worked for a large corporation for 1 1/2 years, I did not ask for a raise on purpose, to see if they would give me one voluntarily, they didn't and probably wouldn't. They claimed they cared about their employees, but did very little for them. They paid Chevy wages and expected Cadillac work, which I find very typical of all of them.
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