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Just because something is the law doesn't make it a good law. There are 17 states with medical marijuana (420) laws, while all the millions who have cards are breaking the law according the Federal government.
The Federal and State statutes are more than 70 years old. To put someone away for weed is ridiculous at best, but for life? Are you seriously saying that is a wise and reasonable law?
Constitutionally speaking, it's illegal to render such harmful sentencing.
I agree. However; based on the logic of prohibitionists and their attitude where "the law is the law" and blindly follow without question, they would have been OK with Jim Crow laws, segregation, or even letting Jesus get crucified. You know... "because the law is the law!" The fact that someone gets a longer sentence for simply having possession of a lot of pot, than that of a murderer or child molestor tells me that our priorities in this country are all screwed up, and that there are a lot of authoritarian fascist types living here!
A lot of the prisons are corporate owned and if a cell is empty the state pays for the empty cell. It's better to fill it and keep the money flowing. That's one of the main reason for prisoner transfers. Without a constant supply of new criminals the economy would take a huge hit. Think of it as Solent Green on a diet of time an not flesh. What is fair is for children to decide not to be of any consequence in adult worlds.
Yes it is all about money. However; don't you just find that logic completely wrong? Not to mention the idea of prison for profit totally immoral? Especially in a so-called "free country" and to some who say we're a "Christian nation?"
Fraud, embezzlement, theft, B&E are all non violent crimes.
How about Bernie Madoff?
How about elected politicians who lie, cheat and steal for personal gain?
How about that MD who sold organs on the black market?
Where does one draw the line?
What I hate is how some high profile criminals do their time in country club prisons. Why not put them into the general population?
It would be cheaper and perhaps more of a deterent to chop a finger off for every $X taken.
Smoking, possessing pot vs embezzlement, theft and robbing people of their life savings.... Sorry middle-aged mom... bad analogy.
However; I do agree that high profile crooks have it easy, compared to those that are in for much more minor offenses such as drug possession.
The funny part is people actually believe having seven pounds of dope is perfectly normal. He's obviously a high volume dealer and who knows what else it would bring in consequences and ramifications. People shoplift, burglarize, armed robbery, mug, assault and kill every single day for far less. Like the cab driver who gets wasted for $5 in his wallet to buy some more crack. Seven pounds of dope, I say good ridden.
I least I won't have to shoot and kill that dumb SOB or any of his cronies when they are doing what they have to do to move that much junk on the street. Or even the stoners who will be buying it off him. Drink some beer and or smoke a cigarette. It's what anyone else does.
Not to pull you out as an individual, but merely as an example.
Some people are willing to nullify another's entire existence, not because that person has done anything at all to them in the slightest way, but simply because they don't like the other person because they do something that they personally don't approve of.
This is precisely why the "laws" making a drug illegal are completely immoral and insane. It makes a "crime" out of something where no victim is evident. If said stoner broke into your house and stole your munchies, well then you have a case that a crime has occurred. Otherwise, you are just playing God.
For an actual crime to have occurred, someone somewhere has to have initiated force against someone else to make them act against their own wishes. Having, selling, using a drug in and of itself does not initiate force against anyone else.
Not to pull you out as an individual, but merely as an example.
Some people are willing to nullify another's entire existence, not because that person has done anything at all to them in the slightest way, but simply because they don't like the other person because they do something that they personally don't approve of.
This is precisely why the "laws" making a drug illegal are completely immoral and insane. It makes a "crime" out of something where no victim is evident. If said stoner broke into your house and stole your munchies, well then you have a case that a crime has occurred. Otherwise, you are just playing God.
For an actual crime to have occurred, someone somewhere has to have initiated force against someone else to make them act against their own wishes. Having, selling, using a drug in and of itself does not initiate force against anyone else.
I agree with what you're saying. Unfortunately, it flies way over the head of prohibitionists!
so everyone is falling into the trap that CNN set. this was 20 years ago when selling pot was illegal, and a felony. the second part of the trap is that he was sentenced under the three strikes law, meaning his conviction for dealing pot was his third strike. you cant change a sentence set down 20 years earlier under a different set of circumstances, unless you go to court and have the criminal charge reduced from a felony to a misdemeanor.
Not to pull you out as an individual, but merely as an example.
Some people are willing to nullify another's entire existence, not because that person has done anything at all to them in the slightest way, but simply because they don't like the other person because they do something that they personally don't approve of.
Everyone is that way, the only difference is where you draw the line.
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This is precisely why the "laws" making a drug illegal are completely immoral and insane. It makes a "crime" out of something where no victim is evident. If said stoner broke into your house and stole your munchies, well then you have a case that a crime has occurred. Otherwise, you are just playing God.
For an actual crime to have occurred, someone somewhere has to have initiated force against someone else to make them act against their own wishes. Having, selling, using a drug in and of itself does not initiate force against anyone else.
I'm for legalization but you are just rambling nonsensical.
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The fact that someone gets a longer sentence for simply having possession of a lot of pot, than that of a murderer or child molestor tells me that our priorities in this country are all screwed up, and that there are a lot of authoritarian fascist types living here!
