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More uneducated youth is just what we need, leads to groups like ISIS.
Yeah, pot leads to murderous Muslim extremist groups like ISIS...that's an incredible slipperly slope!
Except pot is pretty easy to get for people who want it...and ISIS never showed up in the US.
This is the kind of stupid claim that makes sure the people who don't want it legalized are not taken seriously. Please, keep saying stuff like this so others can use it as an example.
I had no problem with legalization myself. But now I have a curious 15 year old who wants to know what the big deal is now that it's being legalized.
My daughter has been educated and told everyone has choices in life and then told there is a time and a place for everything.
Has she smoked pot... Yes and she even told us about it and her experience with it. It is not something that she enjoys and she has her athletics at school that would end if she was at school doing anything unbecoming of a student athlete.
She asks us if she can have a drink of our margarita's. She hates the taste of beer and if she is going to a party, she lets us know that she may have a drink and what time to come pick her up.
This is my life, not yours or anyone elses. If I want to smoke pot all day and night, it is my right to choose how to live my own life, not yours. As long as I'm not infringing on your rights with it, stay out of MY life. If I light up around you, to where the smoke is hitting you, then that is your business. That is infringing on your rights. Otherwise it is NOONE's business how I choose to live my life.
All well and good right up to the point where you develop emphysema from years of smoking pot day and night. Then Medicaid covers your treatment which everyone else now has to pay for. And then you decide to quit so you enter rehab, for which the taxpayer also picks up the bill.
As long as we have the welfare state, we will need a nanny state to go with. The two go hand in hand.
All well and good right up to the point where you develop emphysema from years of smoking pot day and night. Then Medicaid covers your treatment which everyone else now has to pay for. And then you decide to quit so you enter rehab, for which the taxpayer also picks up the bill.
How about people who eat all day and night?
"The estimated annual health care costs of obesity-related illness are a staggering $190.2 billion or nearly 21% of annual medical spending in the United States. Childhood obesity alone is responsible for $14 billion in direct medical costs."
There is little doubt that society also picks up the tab for many of the health issues that result from obesity. Would you support the government prohibiting all fast food restaurants/bakeries/confectioners, etc., because the food they serve is unhealthy and leads to increased medical costs because some people have no self-control?
More uneducated youth is just what we need, leads to groups like ISIS.
Yeah, pot leads to murderous Muslim extremist groups like ISIS...that's an incredible slipperly slope!
Except pot is pretty easy to get for people who want it...and ISIS never showed up in the US.
Reading is fundamental: "groups like ISIS" does not mean ISIS, it means a group that has something in common w/ ISIS. I'm pretty sure she was referring to the mindless follower mentality, whether ISIS, Jim Jones's People's Temple, Occupy Wall Street etc.
Insofar as marijuana reduces the capacity to think, it increases the risk of falling for charlatanism. Having lived thru the 60's and 70's hippie era, I can attest that many such groups--TM, Scientology, People's Temple, Hare Krishna, etc--were always lousy with ex-druggies trying to find a new path in life.
3~Shepherds was spot on, and in fact makes an excellent point that I hadn't thought of before.
"The estimated annual health care costs of obesity-related illness are a staggering $190.2 billion or nearly 21% of annual medical spending in the United States. Childhood obesity alone is responsible for $14 billion in direct medical costs."
There is little doubt that society also picks up the tab for many of the health issues that result from obesity. Would you support the government prohibiting all fast food restaurants/bakeries/confectioners, etc., because the food they serve is unhealthy and leads to increased medical costs because some people have no self-control?
Obviously the same principle applies to any unhealthy behavior, whether it is overeating, smoking, lack of exercise, drinking, smoking pot, or engaging in unprotected anal sex, or playing NFL football.
As long as we have the vast welfare state, we will need an equally vast nanny state. In fact I think it's almost inevitable. Eventually the bureaucracy will realize that all those dollars going to treat people for various behavior-derived health problems are dollars that could be going into the pockets of bureaucrats. That was what happened w/ tobacco, and it will happen with a range of other behaviors.
You don't ever see anything like this happening with pot.
"Two new University of Colorado studies paint an ominous picture of the direction of the state since marijuana commercialization, but neither provides conclusive evidence that legal pot is causing harm.
One study shows more drivers involved in fatal car accidents in Colorado are testing positive for marijuana — and that Colorado has a higher percentage of such drivers testing positive for pot than other states even when controlled for several variables. But the data the researchers use does not reveal whether those drivers were impaired at the time of the crash or whether they were at fault."
Too soon to tell but the research is not looking too good.
Again, this is only true if you as a non-user are not required to pay for the health consequences of those who choose to use. This is not currently the case, and is unlikely to be the case anytime soon.
Creating more initiations of force by government is not a solution to other initiations of force by government. That I "have" to pay for other's health costs is just as immoral as drugs being illegal. Two wrongs do not make a right. It's like saying, well because the government is oppressing me, I would like to see others oppressed. It is a vicious downward spiral into complete tyranny.
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