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I cannot comment on other states, Hawaii is special, I agree with you. you need to educate yourself more is all... come to the light.....
I do not dispute that Hawaii was annexed, I know some of Hawaii's history. The point is, it does not make any difference.
All protesting does at this point is cause people to go "Oh gee, I guess we screwed over the Hawaiians like we screwed over the Sioux, Cherokee, Arapaho, Pueblo, Crow, Apache, and numerous other tribes and cultures to get where we are today."
Then what?
If you think Hawaii will ever leave US control, you are sadly mistaken.
All protesting does is heighten public awareness, at best. Even then, only temporarily. Protesting has never once got a law repealed.
Like it or not, in the real world "might makes right." If I cannot defend my property either by might or by the law, then I really cannot claim it is my property.
The law says Hawaii is not just the property of the US, but also a US State. Alaska is no different in that respect. However, instead of being taken by force Alaska was bought from Russia, regardless of what the inhabitants of Alaska at the time wanted. They were not even consulted. Nevertheless, Alaska became US property and then a US State.
Instead of complaining about what was lost, take a look at what was gained.
I think it would depend on the definition of protesting here. Laws do get changed because people object/protest. Getting an impartial court can be a problem, of course.
People have far more power than any government, if they so choose. Government is a construct created by people.
I think it would depend on the definition of protesting here. Laws do get changed because people object/protest. Getting an impartial court can be a problem, of course.
People have far more power than any government, if they so choose. Government is a construct created by people.
What law has ever been enacted, changed, or repealed, as a result of protesting? Please be specific.
Even the MLK marches during the mid- to late-1960s had absolutely no effect on any existing law, nor were any new laws enacted as a result. Just to remind you, the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, before MLK started his marches in 1965.
I certainly do not wish to infringe on anyone's right to freely assemble and peacefully protest any issue they desire. I just find protests to be a waste of time and completely ineffective.
If I want to raise awareness of an issue, I join a suitable PAC that lobbies Congress to express my point of view.
What law has ever been enacted, changed, or repealed, as a result of protesting? Please be specific.
Even the MLK marches during the mid- to late-1960s had absolutely no effect on any existing law, nor were any new laws enacted as a result. Just to remind you, the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, before MLK started his marches in 1965.
I certainly do not wish to infringe on anyone's right to freely assemble and peacefully protest any issue they desire. I just find protests to be a waste of time and completely ineffective.
If I want to raise awareness of an issue, I join a suitable PAC that lobbies Congress to express my point of view.
That is why I mentioned definition. You are perceiving protest, as in marches. This is not what the word means. Certainly not what I meant. Protest is to disapprove or oppose what is being presented.
object legal definition of object ObjectAs a verb, to take exception to something; to declare or express the belief that something is improper or illegal.As a noun, the thing sought to be accomplished or attained; aim; purpose; intention.
That is why I mentioned definition. You are perceiving protest, as in marches. This is not what the word means. Certainly not what I meant. Protest is to disapprove or oppose what is being presented.
object legal definition of object ObjectAs a verb, to take exception to something; to declare or express the belief that something is improper or illegal.As a noun, the thing sought to be accomplished or attained; aim; purpose; intention.
As I suspected, you cannot answer my question because there has never been a law enacted, changed, or repealed as a result of any protest. No matter how you want to define it.
As I suspected, you cannot answer my question because there has never been a law enacted, changed, or repealed as a result of any protest. No matter how you want to define it.
What? You are really trying to say that people don't get laws changed? Every law gets changed because someone disagrees with it and objects/protest. If everyone agreed and no party objected, of course, nothing would change. The whole judicial system is based on this.
What? You are really trying to say that people don't get laws changed? Every law gets changed because someone disagrees with it and objects/protest. If everyone agreed and no party objected, of course, nothing would change. The whole judicial system is based on this.
You still have not answered my question:
"What law has ever been enacted, changed, or repealed, as a result of protesting? Please be specific."
No, people do not get laws changed as a result of protests. That is precisely my point.
Laws are changed for a wide variety of reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with any protest. It is sheer fantasy to believe that protesting changes anything. In order to effect change one must work within the system, not buck the system by protesting.
The more you continue to obfuscate, the more you make my point.
"What law has ever been enacted, changed, or repealed, as a result of protesting? Please be specific."
No, people do not get laws changed as a result of protests. That is precisely my point.
Laws are changed for a wide variety of reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with any protest. It is sheer fantasy to believe that protesting changes anything. In order to effect change one must work within the system, not buck the system by protesting.
The more you continue to obfuscate, the more you make my point.
I already addressed this. You are trying to claim a particular definition of protest, one I clarified earlier. I have obfuscated nothing. You made up your own definition and applied it despite clarification.
Let's try this, lol.
What law has not been enacted, changed, or repealed, as a result of protesting? Please be specific.
All laws are changed because someone objects/protest or disagrees with the law. That is how laws get made or changed. Your original comment makes no sense.
It must also be pointed out that the OP is of the opinion, looking at his or her earlier postings, that "The Apology Resolution" of 1993, passed by Congress and signed by President Clinton, means that Hawaii is not a 'state' within the United States, and that said Apology recognized that the native Hawaiian people have unrelinquished claims over the ceded lands.
I believe the OP, while not necessarily a 'birther', took the viewpoint that since Hawaii is not a state, then, by necessity, President Obama was not born in the United States.
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