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Old 09-30-2014, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Once again, people voting against high taxes with their feet.
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The Northeast, once the nation’s political engine that produced presidents, House speakers and Senate giants including the late Edward M. Kennedy, is losing clout in Washington as citizens flee the high-tax region, according to experts worried about the trend.

The Census Bureau reports that population growth has shifted to the South and the result is that the 11 states that make up the Northeast are being bled dry of representation in Washington.

Critics blame rising taxes in states such as Massachusetts and Connecticut for limiting population growth in the Northeast to just 15 percent from 1983 to 2013, while the rest of the nation grew more than 41 percent.

The biggest impact comes in the loss of congressional representation.

Deep in a recent report, for example, the American Legislative Exchange Council tabulated how the drop in population relative to the rest of the nation cut the region’s power in Washington. While the states from Pennsylvania to Maine had 141 House members in 1950, they are down to 85 today, a drop of some 40 percent.

Northeast loses 40% of House seats as people flee high-tax states | WashingtonExaminer.com
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Old 09-30-2014, 04:23 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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It's a no-brainer...it is counter-productive to live somewhere that sucks you dry in taxation, has a high cost of living, and from what I remember of the city I grew up in, Philadelphia, is a cesspool of the lowest common denominator that cannot escape the city. I visited a while back and whole swaths of the city looked closer to something you would see in a third-world nation not America. Lines of cars backed up at drug corners....like a drive through...no lie...hilarious.

Funny, it seems that people are being charged extra to live in filth, crime, and chaos of large cities in the northeast.

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Old 09-30-2014, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Richmond/Philadelphia/Brooklyn
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A couple of things to point out
-The Northeast actually added at least a few million people in the past decade
-The Northeast peaked in power at least a few decades back (like pre WWII)
-A lot of the shift in power from the northeast actually had much to do with federal government money leaving the northeast and being pumped into the economies of other regions (New Deal, WWII, Interstate Highway Act, etc)
-furthermore, the Northeast was actually in alot worse shape a few decades ago (New York State Actually Lost population in the 1970s)
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Old 09-30-2014, 04:44 PM
 
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It's a no-brainer...it is counter-productive to live somewhere that sucks you dry in taxation, has a high cost of living, and from what I remember of the city I grew up in, Philadelphia, is a cesspool of the lowest common denominator that cannot escape the city. I visited a while back and whole swaths of the city looked closer to something you would see in a third-world nation not America. Lines of cars backed up at drug corners....like a drive through...no lie...hilarious.

Funny, it seems that people are being charged extra to live in filth, crime, and chaos of large cities in the northeast.
Only problem is they move and vote for them same failed ideas and repeat the same failures as they did in the North East...They are like Locusts.
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Old 09-30-2014, 04:47 PM
 
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A couple of things to point out
-The Northeast actually added at least a few million people in the past decade
-The Northeast peaked in power at least a few decades back (like pre WWII)
-A lot of the shift in power from the northeast actually had much to do with federal government money leaving the northeast and being pumped into the economies of other regions (New Deal, WWII, Interstate Highway Act, etc)
-furthermore, the Northeast was actually in alot worse shape a few decades ago (New York State Actually Lost population in the 1970s)


New York lost a net 1.6 million residents to other states between 2000 and 2010, according to 2010 Census data.
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Old 09-30-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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A couple of things to point out
-The Northeast actually added at least a few million people in the past decade
-The Northeast peaked in power at least a few decades back (like pre WWII)
-A lot of the shift in power from the northeast actually had much to do with federal government money leaving the northeast and being pumped into the economies of other regions (New Deal, WWII, Interstate Highway Act, etc)
-furthermore, the Northeast was actually in alot worse shape a few decades ago (New York State Actually Lost population in the 1970s)
New York LOST 2 SEATS in the House of Representatives after the last Census.

SC gained 1 seat. Texas gained I seat, I believe. NC was within a hairs breathe of gaining 1 seat.
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Old 09-30-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Only problem is they move and vote for them same failed ideas and repeat the same failures as they did in the North East...They are like Locusts.
True, and I was really referring to the large cities, which are all pretty disgusting wherever they occur in the country. The thread is really about States so I was a bit off the path. I cannot think of any large city that I'd like to live in at this point. "Convenience" is just not worth the taxation, crime, and filth.
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Old 09-30-2014, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Richmond/Philadelphia/Brooklyn
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New York lost a net 1.6 million residents to other states between 2000 and 2010, according to 2010 Census data.
False, they actually gained about 400,000 residents

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_York
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Old 09-30-2014, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Richmond/Philadelphia/Brooklyn
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True, and I was really referring to the large cities, which are all pretty disgusting wherever they occur in the country. The thread is really about States so I was a bit off the path. I cannot think of any large city that I'd like to live in at this point. "Convenience" is just not worth the taxation, crime, and filth.
What a shame people feel that way about big cities, oh well have fun in your sterile looking Kitsch Culture less subdivision. Lucky the latest generations happen to disagree with you.
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Old 09-30-2014, 04:55 PM
 
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New York lost a net 1.6 million residents to other states between 2000 and 2010, according to 2010 Census data.
3 EC points and most of them were high income earners...Losing wealth and power..
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