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How many staff and resources are consumed for an Ebola patient and who is paying the tab?
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NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Bellevue Hospital Center has been forced to transport its intensive care unit patients two blocks north to NYU Langone Medical Center, as the staff at the Bellevue ICU are consumed with Ebola care.
NYU Langone accepted two adult patients over the weekend from the Bellevue ICU, and was expecting to take two more pediatric ICU patients later Monday. The hospitals campuses are located about two blocks apart on the East Side of Manhattan.
“These recent transfers will help alleviate some of the demand on Bellevue’s critical care staff as they focus on current patient care issues,” the hospitals said in a joint statement.
Ian Michaels of the New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation emphasized that the issue was one of staffing.
“It’s not to free up space. It’s to free up staff,” Michaels told CBS 2. “All the staff working with the Ebola patient are from the ICU.”
"Merck irrelevantly and deceptively added animal antibodies to the test results, thus giving the false appearance of strong human immune response to the vaccine."
"On top of that, Merck faked the quantitative results of the tests to which the animal antibodies had been added."
Hamsters that couldn't find enough vitamin C died from severe hemorrhagic diseases.
You see, they never evolved to make their own.
"Goats, like almost all animals, make their own vitamin C. An adult goat, weighing approx. 70 kg, will manufacture more than 13,000 mg of vitamin C per day in normal health, and levels manyfold higher when faced with stress."
And a civillian cannot feel they are invincible do something stupid while they are in Africa? LOL...less restriction, less rules and regulations to follow...
To quell the hysteria, Really? They are not there to treat people, they are there to build....
I did not know all military was 22? Being I am retired Army (2009) I have encountered many young Soldiers (to the Army) well over 30....yes I understand the majority are "kids" and some are completely stupid....
That everyone seems to agree with, unless of course you are non-military and were over there.
Of course civilians can do stupid things, too, and even "mature" folks do so once in a while.
DH is an Army vet. He went to the trade school on the Hudson. Wes Clark was a classmate.
They are there to build, but they will be building in an area where Ebola victims will be treated. That will be enough to make some in this country hysterical that the troops will bring the disease back to them.
The simplest thing will be for our returning soldiers not to be allowed to mingle with the general public when they return home, though for most it will be totally unnecessary.
How are things going up your way. I really miss it up there....
In the local Pocono Record there is one article running about our commuter Ebola fears while in the NYC transit system. What I am thinking is that we are just starting the cold and flu season. If you have somebody sneezing and feverish, at the station or on the bus/train, it will make many nervous. Apparently there are many nervous that live two hours away form NYC.
Of course we still have the massive manhunt on for Eric Frein - some of which is in my backyard. Also our hunting season is on hold - which might be the only way they will catch this police killer.
But, other than that, our weather is beautiful and our leaves are almost off our trees.
Blood and vomit....body fluids; eating the meat of an infected animal.
I'm just now posting in this really, really long thread. I did stop along the way and read a few posts which made me wonder, is it airborne? Seems there may be those that believe it is.
No, it is not airborne. Some people have difficulty understanding the difference between having droplets of body fluids splashed on someone and having the virus being transmitted over a distance through the air. The danger zone is being within three feet of a victim, although that is a somewhat arbitrary distance. The fluids that are most dangerous are vomit and diarrhea, both of which a victim can produce in gallon amounts daily. Both of those may contain blood, also.
No, it is not airborne. Some people have difficulty understanding the difference between having droplets of body fluids splashed on someone and having the virus being transmitted over a distance through the air. The danger zone is being within three feet of a victim, although that is a somewhat arbitrary distance. The fluids that are most dangerous are vomit and diarrhea, both of which a victim can produce in gallon amounts daily. Both of those may contain blood, also.
Did NJ quarantine all MDs, nurses and healthcare workers who had contact with nurse Hickcox before she tested negative , twice?
Does NY quarantine the MDs, nurses and other healthcare workers who have been caring for the doctor?
They will be monitored. It is not necessary to place them in isolation, which is what happened to Ms. Hickox.
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Originally Posted by Katiana
I don't think anyone said you can't get it from bowling balls and subways, not that I recall. In one of the readings I did, it was postulated by a health official that maybe Nina Pham or Amber Vinson got it from a contaminated pen! Because, of course, the protocols work!
Things get contaminated. The New Yorkers on one forum (maybe not this one) posted about how close everyone is jammed together on the NY subways. If it's possible to transmit by sweat, it could be transmitted on the subway for sure.
A contaminated pen would mean someone broke protocol, no matter which version of the protocol was being used at the time.
There is no evidence that sweat from someone who is not actually sick will spread Ebola, and whether there is a risk from sweat in very sick patients is hard to determine because those patients produce such a large volume of more hazardous fluids.
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Originally Posted by cremebrulee
yanno Katiana, it's awful funny they quarantined the dog, but not people she was in contact with?
The only person who had contact with her, besides her coworkers, was her fiance. He was quarantined and her coworkers will be monitored from the last dates of contact with her and Ms. Vinson.
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Originally Posted by cremebrulee
and this is all they know to date.
From the link in the post you quoted:
"When it comes to viruses, it is always difficult to predict what they can or cannot do. It is instructive, however, to see what viruses have done in the past, and use that information to guide our thinking. Therefore we can ask: has any human virus ever changed its mode of transmission?
The answer is no. We have been studying viruses for over 100 years, and we’ve never seen a human virus change the way it is transmitted.
There is no reason to believe that Ebola virus is any different from any of the viruses that infect humans and have not changed the way that they are spread."
"After writing many articles on the Ebola hoax, and after demonstrating that the tests which diagnose Ebola are useless, irrelevant, and routinely produce thousands of false-positives, I thought I’d mention an obvious strategy—if someone wanted to invent a fake Ebola epidemic."
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Wes Clark was a classmate.
