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Old 10-16-2014, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Do any of you ask questions of the CDC, what have you been doing all these years with all those diseases, we entrusted you to run tests and create vaccines, but no.....what the hell have you all been doing?
Being an informed voter I assume you are aware that the budget for Hospital Preparedness Program has been halved over the past decade. Same deal with the Public Health Emergency Program. Has Congress been receptive to spending money to prepare for remote deadly viruses that have historically quickly died out?

Did state and county health officials pick up the slack? Did the American Hospital Association? Did the 5000 + US hospitals take responsibility for their own operations and pick up the slack?
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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How come the CDC guys get full self contained suits with oxygen canisters attached and we get non permeable gowns?
I don't know. Why not ask the hospitals, county and state health officials the same question?
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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LESS THAN 1% OF THE POPULATIONS OF THE AFFECTED COUNTRIES ARE INFECTED. There are roughly 4.6 MILLION Liberians. It's an unreasonable burden.

Frontier Airlines is concerned about public relations.
Correct, fewer than 1% are infected. But that figure is kind of a red herring. You might have noticed the problem(s) caused by ONE INFECTED PERSON coming here. I strongly disagree that it's an unreasonable burden.

As for Frontier, sure, they have a public relations issue, among other things. But there are extremely conflicting reports about whether Amber Vinson was symptomatic on the plane.
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:46 AM
 
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You forget aloofness/stupidity at the "higher" levels running the show as a contributor to the "threat". And as someone else pointed out well, people are more ticked-off than anything at this mismanagement.

ie....We won't tell you not to fly lady who is running a temperature after recently treating an ebola patient where one of her coworkers came down with the virus also.
I agree that there seem to have been some instances of outright stupidity in the timeline of events in the United States. That doesn't tick me off, since I'm struck on a daily basis with how stupidly some people behave. But I'm still fully confident that the competent and intelligent among us will be able to contain Ebola in the United States, that we have the resources to do so, and that containing Ebola is everyone's goal.
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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Correct, fewer than 1% are infected. But that figure is kind of a red herring. You might have noticed the problem(s) caused by ONE INFECTED PERSON coming here. I strongly disagree that it's an unreasonable burden.

As for Frontier, sure, they have a public relations issue, among other things. But there are extremely conflicting reports about whether Amber Vinson was symptomatic on the plane.
You strongly disagree because you're not the one being asked to bear that burden.
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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hey do not tell me
I have said the SAME thing
I am not sitting on my butt but this is who we have so yes I am saying something
one party is just as inept as the other that is why we need to fire a hell of a lot especially the hacks who have been there for years getting rich
I am hoping we get some one like Bobby Jindal not Jeb Bush or some flake like Rand Paul
oh there have been plenty of folks on here laughing at anyone who voices a concern about this or Isis
they have their heads up their asses
but you are right people will vote their party and if this does not wake them up
what will???
What specifically has Bobby Jingle and the state of Louisiana done to historically ensure all hospitals within the state are capable of flagging and diagnosing a potential Ebola patient and, when necessary, treating Ebola? I have nothing against Jingle. But come on now.
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Barring everyone from those countries, where LESS THAN 1% of the population has been infected, seems like panic and over-reaction.
Let me ask you a pointed question since you keep going on about the "less than 1%".

If you had a family member, good friend, etc who was part of that "less than 1%" that got infected, could have been prevented by getting infected by pulling a passport from someone from an infected zone who infected this friend/family member you know(either directly/indirectly), would you still be going on like those "less than 1%" somehow don't matter that much/it's not a big deal?
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I suspect the CDC now realizes a person's temperature threshold for Ebola potential is lower than previously thought. Obviously their RW 20/20 hindsight machine was not in working order.
As I understand it, the temp threshold is a universal standard.

It's now obvious that the threshold is not a one size fits all. Like everything, it all depends....
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Political Correctness sometimes I think will ruin everything our forefathers built here.
I'm offended so many people are offended at so many silly things in the name of "what will they think of me if I make a decision that might not make 100% of everyone happy?" in the name of political correctness.

It is getting beyond pathetic, isn't it?

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Old 10-16-2014, 10:53 AM
 
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You strongly disagree because you're not the one being asked to bear that burden.
It's 21 days. It's not like you're in isolation for ten years. I put forth an idea. What's your solution?

We're not currently in a position to quickly end the epidemic in West Africa. That's going to require more time and resources; you can't just turn it off. We need to fight the battle on multiple fronts.

The questionnaire and screening at the African airports is obviously ineffective, and frankly I don't trust it at our airports either. Again, what do you propose?
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