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Old 10-18-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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A doctor yesterday said if any Ebola fluid gets on your naked skin , neck , etc, you get Ebola. He stated the nurses should not have had any bare skin as just touching the neck with ebola on a glove would give that person ebola.. translated, one does not need an opening in the skin to contract ebola.
Which is why you should not believe all doctors.
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Old 10-18-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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WRONG.


closing airline traffic would cost significant amount of money and worthy travel to these countries. Ebola is and remains no real threat to the United States. People aren't passing it until symptomatic, and aren't traveling when they are really contagious. Plus closing air traffic would then force people to move via other routes harder to track (and easier to spread Ebola). If you have money for a air ticket to US, you have money to take a ship to Spain or something than fly back (you people are so not thinking this through)

Any hospital in the United states should of had the capability (you would think) to handle this disease (or fairly quickly). Hospitals need to be prepared for infectious diseases . . .not just Ebola. This isn't a sunk cost, there will be actual contagious threats in the future. This is an opportunity to prepare, because obviously we aren't.


We got a glimpse from the Nurses Union about how bad Texas F'd up. So now you have a couple nurses sick (and no doubt a few more by the time this is done).


So no, air travel should continue. Very little threat in it. . .and if someone comes from West Africa to Ebola I will assume we will better prepared since the last f'd up in texas.
Nice talking point.

There are 4 hospitals in the US prepared to deal with Ebola patients.

Letting the flights continue will cost billions of dollars in the end, and will likely sicken many people here.

Here's to hoping the blue cities with the most supporters of the Obola administration get the next few flyers.
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Old 10-18-2014, 07:17 AM
 
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WRONG.


closing airline traffic would cost significant amount of money and worthy travel to these countries. Ebola is and remains no real threat to the United States. People aren't passing it until symptomatic, and aren't traveling when they are really contagious. Plus closing air traffic would then force people to move via other routes harder to track (and easier to spread Ebola). If you have money for a air ticket to US, you have money to take a ship to Spain or something than fly back (you people are so not thinking this through)

Any hospital in the United states should of had the capability (you would think) to handle this disease (or fairly quickly). Hospitals need to be prepared for infectious diseases . . .not just Ebola. This isn't a sunk cost, there will be actual contagious threats in the future. This is an opportunity to prepare, because obviously we aren't.


We got a glimpse from the Nurses Union about how bad Texas F'd up. So now you have a couple nurses sick (and no doubt a few more by the time this is done).


So no, air travel should continue. Very little threat in it. . .and if someone comes from West Africa to Ebola I will assume we will better prepared since the last f'd up in texas.



check back in 6 months and see if you still feel the same~~
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Old 10-18-2014, 07:21 AM
 
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closing airline traffic would cost significant amount of money and worthy travel to these countries. Ebola is and remains no real threat to the United States. People aren't passing it until symptomatic, and aren't traveling when they are really contagious. Plus closing air traffic would then force people to move via other routes harder to track (and easier to spread Ebola). If you have money for a air ticket to US, you have money to take a ship to Spain or something than fly back (you people are so not thinking this through)

Any hospital in the United states should of had the capability (you would think) to handle this disease (or fairly quickly). Hospitals need to be prepared for infectious diseases . . .not just Ebola. This isn't a sunk cost, there will be actual contagious threats in the future. This is an opportunity to prepare, because obviously we aren't.


We got a glimpse from the Nurses Union about how bad Texas F'd up. So now you have a couple nurses sick (and no doubt a few more by the time this is done).


So no, air travel should continue. Very little threat in it. . .and if someone comes from West Africa to Ebola I will assume we will better prepared since the last f'd up in texas.




An awful amount of faith and supposition here.
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Old 10-18-2014, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Florida
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West Africa is suffering greatly. God help them. This is the reality on this PBS video which shows the suffering and death with this horrid epidemic called Ebola. It is so sad what this virus can do and how fast it is spreading. It is difficult to watch but to get a clear understanding of what is going on there is heartbreaking ,tragic and real. God knows there are heroic and compassionate people at the front lines to eradicate this disease.

Map/Video: How Did Ebola Spread Through Africa? | KERA News
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Old 10-18-2014, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Nice talking point.

There are 4 hospitals in the US prepared to deal with Ebola patients.

Letting the flights continue will cost billions of dollars in the end, and will likely sicken many people here.

Here's to hoping the blue cities with the most supporters of the Obola administration get the next few flyers.
Nonsense! There has been a series on our local news over the past couple nights about preparedness in our area. Our county hospital has been prominently featured showing all the equipment and measures they would take to deal with an Ebola case all the way from patient encounter to isolation and treatment. They have plans and protocols. They have protective equipment and they know how to use it. They have waste disposal systems in place. This hospital is ready as are many, many others across the country. Texas screwed up, plain and simple and created a crisis where there did not have to be one.

Now, I will grant you that many hospitals are not prepared. Certainly, Texas Presby was not. But to generalize the disastrous handling of the case in Texas to the entire country is an insult to our health services industry and the hardworking people who have prepared for Ebola or other diseases that require a similar response.
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Old 10-18-2014, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Nonsense! There has been a series on our local news over the past couple nights about preparedness in our area. Our county hospital has been prominently featured showing all the equipment and measures they would take to deal with an Ebola case all the way from patient encounter to isolation and treatment. They have plans and protocols. They have protective equipment and they know how to use it. They have waste disposal systems in place. This hospital is ready as are many, many others across the country. Texas screwed up, plain and simple and created a crisis where there did not have to be one.

Now, I will grant you that many hospitals are not prepared. Certainly, Texas Presby was not. But to generalize the disastrous handling of the case in Texas to the entire country is an insult to our health services industry and the hardworking people who have prepared for Ebola or other diseases that require a similar response.
They why didn't Emory and Presby have their waste sent to that hospital ?
Emory had it piling up out back in HD containers for months.
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Old 10-18-2014, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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They why didn't Emory and Presby have their waste sent to that hospital ?
Emory had it piling up out back in HD containers for months.
Waste management or control might have been a better term. They have "room" where they would isolate wastes rather than let it pile up in the patient wards and hallways as was done in Texas.
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Old 10-18-2014, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by ChrisFromChicago View Post
WRONG.


closing airline traffic would cost significant amount of money and worthy travel to these countries. Ebola is and remains no real threat to the United States. People aren't passing it until symptomatic, and aren't traveling when they are really contagious. Plus closing air traffic would then force people to move via other routes harder to track (and easier to spread Ebola). If you have money for a air ticket to US, you have money to take a ship to Spain or something than fly back (you people are so not thinking this through)

Any hospital in the United states should of had the capability (you would think) to handle this disease (or fairly quickly). Hospitals need to be prepared for infectious diseases . . .not just Ebola. This isn't a sunk cost, there will be actual contagious threats in the future. This is an opportunity to prepare, because obviously we aren't.


We got a glimpse from the Nurses Union about how bad Texas F'd up. So now you have a couple nurses sick (and no doubt a few more by the time this is done).


So no, air travel should continue. Very little threat in it. . .and if someone comes from West Africa to Ebola I will assume we will better prepared since the last f'd up in texas.
Airline travel has already been cancelled for the most part only two airlines operate in two countries, three in Guinea.

I know your number one goal is to defend Obama but please try and to make sense. A ship to Spain? What do you think this is exactly?
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Old 10-18-2014, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Nonsense! There has been a series on our local news over the past couple nights about preparedness in our area. Our county hospital has been prominently featured showing all the equipment and measures they would take to deal with an Ebola case all the way from patient encounter to isolation and treatment. They have plans and protocols. They have protective equipment and they know how to use it. They have waste disposal systems in place. This hospital is ready as are many, many others across the country. Texas screwed up, plain and simple and created a crisis where there did not have to be one.

Now, I will grant you that many hospitals are not prepared. Certainly, Texas Presby was not. But to generalize the disastrous handling of the case in Texas to the entire country is an insult to our health services industry and the hardworking people who have prepared for Ebola or other diseases that require a similar response.
Texas Pres was simply the first, the guinea pig if you will. If Duncan had stumbled into any other hospital and wasn't forthcoming about his travels/Ebola exposure, a similar thing would have happened.
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