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You know that whining nurse up in Maine who says she feels fine?
Everybody who supposedly knows what they're talking about says you can't get Ebola unless the person you catch it from is symptomatic. Okay. Well, what if that NYC doctor, felt fine before he left his home but became symptomatic while he was at one of the bowling alleys? There's nothing about Ebola that says you only become symptomatic while you are in your home. So that nurse up in Maine, could her moment when she goes from not being symptomatic to being symptomatic happen, for example, at the supermarket? You know, non-symptomatic at 9:00A, symptomatic at 9:15A.
I think if she goes outside they should put her down with a tranquilizer dart ...and then bring her to the State Department for the rest of her 21 days.
The question you raise, above, has been the question I've raised since day one. When is the "exact moment" one becomes "symptomatic"?? Is a temp of 99.2, on it's way up, "symptomatic"? Or does your temp have to be all the way to 103 to be so? And some % of Ebola infected folks never get a fever. Bradley had a "general feeling of malaise" before his onset. That can mean just about anything. I think the "symptomatic" thing has been extremely poorly defined.
Strange you should bring up the tranquilizer dart on the same morning I woke up with that idea. I read one report saying that some health officials are stationed outside her house. If she attempts to leave (even to go to the hospital with a few symptoms, are these officials going to apprehend her in full hazmat gear? On another note, what doctor or dentist or restaurant is going to want to serve her during this period?
The bigger question is, when someone is running around in public with any degree of hazard of infecting others with a potentially deadly virus, what is the public right, and what are the grounds for subduing and arrest?
You know that whining nurse up in Maine who says she feels fine?
Everybody who supposedly knows what they're talking about says you can't get Ebola unless the person you catch it from is symptomatic. Okay. Well, what if that NYC doctor, felt fine before he left his home but became symptomatic while he was at one of the bowling alleys? There's nothing about Ebola that says you only become symptomatic while you are in your home. So that nurse up in Maine, could her moment when she goes from not being symptomatic to being symptomatic happen, for example, at the supermarket? You know, non-symptomatic at 9:00A, symptomatic at 9:15A.
I think if she goes outside they should put her down with a tranquilizer dart ...and then bring her to the State Department for the rest of her 21 days.
How would Ebola be transmitted in a supermarket by someone who is symptomatic, particularly a health professional that is self monitoring. The Ebola patient that died spent 3 days at home and no one contracted the disease, how does someone walking around transmit Ebola.
Last edited by Goodnight; 10-30-2014 at 06:46 AM..
You know that whining nurse up in Maine who says she feels fine?
Everybody who supposedly knows what they're talking about says you can't get Ebola unless the person you catch it from is symptomatic. Okay. Well, what if that NYC doctor, felt fine before he left his home but became symptomatic while he was at one of the bowling alleys? There's nothing about Ebola that says you only become symptomatic while you are in your home. So that nurse up in Maine, could her moment when she goes from not being symptomatic to being symptomatic happen, for example, at the supermarket? You know, non-symptomatic at 9:00A, symptomatic at 9:15A.
I think if she goes outside they should put her down with a tranquilizer dart ...and then bring her to the State Department for the rest of her 21 days.
How would Ebola be transmitted in a supermarket by someone who is symptomatic, particularly a health professional that is self monitoring. The Ebola patient that dies spent 3 days at home and no one contracted the disease, how does someone walking around transmit Ebola.
Yes! Great idea. Devote a White House wing, dinner with Obama, for all those coming here from WAfrica treating ebola patients. I bet that idea would be squelched in a hurry.
And infected people are human, they tend to sneeze, cough and spit....onto "things: like other people, grocery carts, and money in hand after recently coughing.
And infected people are human, they tend to sneeze, cough and spit....onto "things: like other people, grocery carts, and money in hand after recently coughing.
Yesterday I was walking through the grocery store when a 60-something man walked by (fairly unkempt and smelly) and as I was picking through the potatoes, I heard him cough 2-3 times RIGHT as he passed by my basket full of fresh veggies and fruits.
I thought, "How rude!" and then I thought, "Eek, I wonder if he has the flu - or worse."
Sorry to say we've become pretty rude as a society. Coughing and sneezing without covering yourself is shockingly common.
since the doctors are heros all ebola doctors shall go get their flights re directed to washington DC first to meet the president and get a medal of honor for their work.
no stops along the way just washington DC white house.
you will be escorted to the WH and the pentagon to meet everyone.
and shall also visit the federal reserve as they all say thank you.
you would have the luxury of staying with the president for 21 days and Michelle Obama and the president's daughters for many days of fun fun fun.
to keep the president safe we shall quarantine you doctors and the president from the public.
our great leader would let your families join us.
in the case of if someone catches ebola we shall all have to end the vacation and have everyone involved be quarantined legitimately for an extra 21 days.
is that alright?
lets see?
why so serious ebola cannot spread unless you are symptomatic right?
so lets do it
How would Ebola be transmitted in a supermarket by someone who is symptomatic, particularly a health professional that is self monitoring. The Ebola patient that dies spent 3 days at home and no one contracted the disease, how does someone walking around transmit Ebola.
There is quite a bit of hysteria going on.
I will note that those whom advocate quarantine of those health care workers who are returning to this country have not really thought it through: namely, they keep harping on quarantining these people after they have already travelled, via airplane, from the 'hot zone' back to the US.
Now, if I were in favor of automatic quarantine for all healthcare workers working in the Hot Zone, I would, using logic, demand that the quarantine be carried out in western Africa, before the people enter an airplane.
Of course, I am not for automatic quarantining of people. I will note that I also am not one who 'suspects' the CDC or the WHO of covering up information.
I became interested in Ebola back when the book, The Hot Zone, was published in 1995. The CDC and other authorities have done a fine job of tamping out outbreaks since that time.
This is a large outbreak. I agree with the logic that the best way to keep Ebola confined to those countries is to send healthcare workers to the affected areas (recall that Nigeria has succeeded in stopping the outbreak within their borders).
As I have said several times herein, it is scary enough to have 13,000 human beings infected in western Africa: it would be outright horrifying if that number were allowed to reach the hundreds of thousands.
The people of those countries would fan out across the continent of Africa, into Europe, into Asia, and so the world. Recall that those affected countries are all on the coast, with working ports, and many would take ship to escape. Escape they will do if they think that the world is abandoning them to their fate.
I will again note that those whom are afraid of there being a large outbreak of Ebola here are ignoring what the quoted poster, above, as well as DC and others have mentioned several times: it is not that easy of a disease to pass on.
One must also recall, as I have stated before, that our healthcare facilities here have been very successful in treating those people who came down with Ebola in this country (save for Mr. Duncan). As one medical doctor noted, there is a vast difference between treatment here and treatment in the Hot Zone, such as having clean water to keep the patient hydrated. We Americans also generally enjoy much better health than those in the Hot Zone, with better immune systems.
Anyway, flu season is upon us. We shall have lots of hysterical people who will ignore getting the flu shot, and then swarm the emergency rooms claiming that they may have Ebola ("I've got a temperature! I coughed!").
Happy Halloween indeed.
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