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what liberals want is for everyone to think they way they are TOLD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
These people are people of religious faith, who offer a service for people who fit a certain RELIGIOUS criteria.
what YOU and your liberal Brownshirt friends have decided is, people are not allowed to have religious beliefs that YOU dont like. period.
This is the First Amendment being trampled and your good with it, because doing so forces people to do what you demand.
You people are the most intollerant people America has ever seen.
The religious also want you to believe what you're told.
That's not what this is about though. The law suit is happening ONLY because this church is operating as a business. Had it not been operating as a business, it would not be facing a law suit.
You can argue that liberals want everyone to agree with same sex marriage, but that same argument applies to the opposition, which is also trampling on the first amendment. By securing freedom of religion, it means I can deny all religions I don't agree with (which is all of them). A Christian does this with all but ONE religion.
[quote=Ferd;36948921]what liberals want is for everyone to think they way they are TOLD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
These people are people of religious faith, who offer a service for people who fit a certain RELIGIOUS criteria.
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This is a business, not a church. Please provide any evidence that the owners of this business apply any criteria at all to those who walk in the door to buy a wedding service. Other than gayness.
And no, a shirt company should not be forced to print anything it doesn't want to. There's a huge difference between denying service to people and not advocating for their cause.
A T-shirt shop should be able to refuse hate messages like "God Hates ****", but not "God Loves You" or "John 3:16" type messages.
No they don't. Now we're really done here. Good lord. Do you want to know the criminal penalty for refusing to pay a lawsuit? Absolutely nothing.
Correct when talking about a civil case, but no correct when it comes to a court order, which means contempt of court can be imposed, no trial, nothing more than the judge saying it so and off to jail you go. If you cannot understand that fact then you are done here.
Well from a Christian standpoint, which I won't belabor since this probably isn't the best forum to discuss the intricacies of scripture, a Christian is not supposed to associate with people who are actively involved in various manifestations of rebellion. This does not mean that they can't interact with them in passive manners such as your employer/employee scenario, but it conveys the idea that no legitimacy shall be given to the behavior. Legitimacy is being forced to be given if a pastor must perform a homosexual marriage. It isn't the idea of sin, because all are sinners.
Whether this chapel is a business or a church is irrelevant. The chapel is being forced to provide a service that it does not offer. The city is requiring the equivalent of a pancake house to also sell hubcaps. There is also the above religious component, which treads dangerously into first amendment territory. One would think that the city wouldn't want to risk a lawsuit based on the free exercise clause. Finally there is the violation of conscience angle. Would you be OK if a homosexual t-shirt maker was forced to make a t-shirt that said "Homosexuality is a sin and gays are going to hell"?
The chapel offers wedding services, the fact it is a business and not a church is about as relevant as relevant can get.
Correct when talking about a civil case, but no correct when it comes to a court order, which means contempt of court can be imposed, no trial, nothing more than the judge saying it so and off to jail you go. If you cannot understand that fact then you are done here.
You must not have read the article. There is no court order outstanding making the couple marry gay people. The threat of jail time and fines is coming from city officials.
You must not have read the article. There is no court order outstanding making the couple marry gay people. The threat of jail time and fines is coming from city officials.
Sure I did, it is the firm suing them that claims they could face jail time due to the ordnance violation so the reality is they are not being threatened by anyone it was simply the group reminding them what they could face under the law. Meaning that your thread is in reality a .....................Lie. I knew we would get around to that before the dust cleared.
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Good lord. Do you want to know the criminal penalty for refusing to pay a lawsuit? Absolutely nothing.
