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Old 10-23-2014, 03:00 PM
 
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Lets see, unemployment is at it's lowest level in 14 years. The deficit is shrinking, first time since Clinton. Many of the troops have come home from Bush's "oil wars". But I agree that obamacare is a mess, maybe if he hadn't based it on Romney's idea?


"Romney's idea"?

No.

Obama and the Dem Congress he had at the time own it lock, stock, & barrel.
The blame can not be shifted anywhere else and it, again, was not "Romney's idea".

You must have heard that in the propaganda & rhetoric.
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:02 PM
 
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Unemployment Is figured exactly the same that it has been under every president. They all have used exactly the same methods. So if Obama lied, they have all lied.
The deficit is figured the same way under all presidents.
If a Republican was president, they would be bragging about the lower unemployment and the shrinking deficit. And Obamacare IS almost identical to the health care plan that Romney pushed through as governor. And Nixon was also in favor of a similar plan.
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Old 10-25-2014, 07:25 AM
 
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your political whining does not constitute a lie on the part of the former president.

Mr Bushs team did not lie. they worked with the evidence they had.
Evidence that EVERY democrat in congress agreed was real.
Evidence that was believed by our allies.

Period.

You guys even lie about republicans lying. its not funny.
And what they refuse to recognize is that the dems believed the evidence long BEFORE Bush ever came on the scene.

NOW they try to claim a different story, It is Bush's fault and he lied".
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Old 10-25-2014, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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So you think honesty is all on the Republican side of the aisle? None of them have ever lied to us? Really? You sure about that?

Got to love these responses..... They come in every thread that criticizes Obama...... Nothing but excuses. Not surprising coming from a supporter of Oblamer, who shirks responsibility on everyone else but himself.

Why do you try and deflect by changing the subject?

Of course Repubs lie, but this thread isn't about THEM, it's about your messiah.
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Old 10-25-2014, 10:30 AM
 
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It's human nature that fault is often found and pointed out easier in regards to someone else, rather than to accept the same short comings and attribute them to ones self. If one wanted to talk about dishonesty and take the high road they would point out their own short comings and concede to others an equal amount. At which point they could be taken seriously and set a foundation for productive debate that might bring light to acknowledgment and solutions. Which would attract a more intelligent participant.

The low road is more often traveled and requires no mention or acceptance of fault to any sacred idea or thing meant to be demonized. When equality can not enter, let alone open the door, dishonesty is demonstrated and only agreement of it can be accepted. When such a fisherman offers his bait the only catch possible is the sucker fish. A bottom feeder or trash fish is the one sided opinion desired by fools who would silence any idea, words, or thoughts of others for their our purpose. Thus they become the court jester and as such should not be taken seriously. They need no bait and can get by with an empty hook of like minds.

If a politician has his mouth open and words are coming out of it wisdom suggest he is lying until proven different.
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Old 10-25-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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It's pretty funny to see how the Democrats' hope and saviour, their black Messiah, has suddenly turned into a bad case of ebola for them, lol.

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Old 10-25-2014, 11:21 PM
 
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your political whining does not constitute a lie on the part of the former president.

Mr Bushs team did not lie. they worked with the evidence they had.
Evidence that EVERY democrat in congress agreed was real.
Evidence that was believed by our allies.

Period.

You guys even lie about republicans lying. its not funny.
Yeah, they did. And we stupidly fell for it. And look where that got us.
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Old 10-25-2014, 11:29 PM
 
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Got to love these responses..... They come in every thread that criticizes Obama...... Nothing but excuses. Not surprising coming from a supporter of Oblamer, who shirks responsibility on everyone else but himself.

Why do you try and deflect by changing the subject?

Of course Repubs lie, but this thread isn't about THEM, it's about your messiah.
LOL you need to stop getting your talking points from Rush. The truth is that people vote party lines with the exception of independents. So how exactly is Obama the "messiah" when a democrat would have been voted into office anyway. 8 years of a republican means a democrat should be voted into office. And after 8 years of a dem in office, a republican should be elected. But we shall see
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Old 10-26-2014, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Obama isn't running so now the "brave" dems are distancing themselves after the fact in order to save their jobs. I wonder how they stand up without a backbone. You either believe in something or you don't.
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