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Old 10-27-2014, 06:47 PM
 
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Old 10-27-2014, 07:06 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Sell outs! Their greedy, traitorous, globalist benefactors have bought them. They don't represent the interests of real Americans any more than Democrats do! We need an end to this two-party system. This country is becoming a failed state because there's no longer any real immigration enforcement. Any Third Worlder who washes up on our shores can be granted residency and citizenship, it seems.
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Old 10-27-2014, 07:48 PM
 
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About not ticking off the fasting growing portion of the US population. Getting the majority of white males w/o other subsets does not get one elected as POTUS. Romney did well..with white males. and got thrashed in the EC vote.
LOL, you have no clue.

That you believe that government and politicians should pander to those who advocate breaking the law, your advice is rendered 'a non-starter'.

If you believe that pandering to illegals is the means of advancing a country... Sorry, you haven't got the wisdom of a mouse.
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Old 10-27-2014, 07:49 PM
 
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Sell outs! Their greedy, traitorous, globalist benefactors have bought them. They don't represent the interests of real Americans any more than Democrats do! We need an end to this two-party system. This country is becoming a failed state because there's no longer any real immigration enforcement. Any Third Worlder who washes up on our shores can be granted residency and citizenship, it seems.
Unless they try to do it legally.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:12 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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THAT'S actually the one issue they SHOULD stick to their guns on and so many dems are disgusted with their party about...they could pull a lot of centrist voters their way quick imho.

Not when poll after poll taken, show consistently more than 3/4 of americans want the laws we have now enforced and our borders protected.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:15 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Any unemployed blue collar worker should be outraged by the lack of enforcement and by the lack of laws that hold greedy employers accountable. The protester bill that came out of the Senate called the immigration reform bill should be enough to convince any blue collar worker that the Dems are out of touch with reality.
Any patriot should be concerned with the near lawlessness in immigration policy.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:52 PM
 
Location: NJ
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pnwmdw-Not attracting Latino votes disables the GOP from having any input towards policy. Where has your so called "political purity" gotten you? Answer: To a POTUS position of insignificance.

America has changed demographically, with or w/o GOP consent.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:18 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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pnwmdw-Not attracting Latino votes disables the GOP from having any input towards policy. Where has your so called "political purity" gotten you? Answer: To a POTUS position of insignificance.

America has changed demographically, with or w/o GOP consent.
Well said

Like you said, the fact is that the demographics have changed and we (the GOP) are going to have to either adapt to the new realities or we will have permanent Democratic Party rule at the Federal level.

I would rather have a candidate who is 60% conservative and can win elections than someone who is 100% conservative and alienates 2/3 of the electorate.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:32 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Well said

Like you said, the fact is that the demographics have changed and we (the GOP) are going to have to either adapt to the new realities or we will have permanent Democratic Party rule at the Federal level.

I would rather have a candidate who is 60% conservative and can win elections than someone who is 100% conservative and alienates 2/3 of the electorate.
That sounds pretty defeatist to me. What is a 60% conservative supposed to accomplish? As I see it, immigration will go on without pause and America will be a completely different country in a generation or less. At that point, what will be left to "conserve"? Then again, most "conservative" politicians aren't really conservative, but are neo-liberal who answer to their corporate donors and not to the American people. Globalism has infected the GOP as well as the Democrats. I don't care what ideology a politician professes as long as they address the real issues. We need an end to the flawed two-party system.
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Old 10-28-2014, 08:04 AM
 
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LOL, you have no clue.

That you believe that government and politicians should pander to those who advocate breaking the law, your advice is rendered 'a non-starter'.

If you believe that pandering to illegals is the means of advancing a country... Sorry, you haven't got the wisdom of a mouse.
Agreed. Any citizen of this country that thinks our politicians should pander to a certain group by putting them above our laws needs their head examined. Those who do that are not pandering to illegal aliens but to the citizens of that ethnic group for votes. Our country is based on the rule of law and no one is exempt from them.
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