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View Poll Results: I am convinced that Climate Change is...
not happening 15 20.83%
real, but not human influenced 41 56.94%
human influenced, but not by CO2 0 0%
tolerable if CO2 is kept under 540 ppm 1 1.39%
harmful to Humans/Earth if CO2 doubles from 1080 ppm to 2160 ppm 4 5.56%
destructive to Humans/Earth if CO2 doubles from 4320 ppm to 8640 ppm 2 2.78%
I don't know 5 6.94%
I don't care 4 5.56%
Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-25-2014, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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In other words, you are incapable of refuting my timeline.
Yes, other words. Words you made up.

 
Old 11-25-2014, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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You've never heard of the Climategate scandal a few years ago?
These people have never heard of anything except what their masters tell them to think.

I cant remember the name of the C-D regular who monitored the NASA produced data and documented changes in the temperature bases to make it look like warming was greater than it was.

Fundamental dishonesty through and through.
 
Old 11-25-2014, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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Yes, other words. Words you made up.
So when the ice age ended 12,000 years ago, the climate did not subsequently warm?
 
Old 11-25-2014, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Of course. Would you like a list of all the bodies that examined the matter and found the right's claims had no merit? I have such a list.
Do you really believe that?
 
Old 11-25-2014, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by chuckmann View Post
These people have never heard of anything except what their masters tell them to think.

I cant remember the name of the C-D regular who monitored the NASA produced data and documented changes in the temperature bases to make it look like warming was greater than it was.

Fundamental dishonesty through and through.
Yes, if they won't admit to the Climategate scandal, that reveals a lot.
 
Old 11-25-2014, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Admit to what? Rather than being dismissed as cranks, the accusation was honored, the work in question was investigated, and the claim was found to have no merit. All this happened years ago. Interesting that it's still being bounced around the denialist community.

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In November 2009, the servers at the University of East Anglia in Britain were illegally hacked and emails were stolen. When a selection of emails between climate scientists were published on the internet, a few suggestive quotes were seized upon by many claiming global warming was all just a conspiracy. A number of independent enquiries have investigated the conduct of the scientists involved in the emails. All have cleared the scientists of any wrong doing:
What do the 'Climategate' hacked CRU emails tell us?
 
Old 11-25-2014, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Admit to what? Rather than being dismissed as cranks, the accusation was honored, the work in question was investigated, and the claim was found to have no merit. All this happened years ago. Interesting that it's still being bounced around the denialist community.

What do the 'Climategate' hacked CRU emails tell us?
Well, I guess that settles it... you found a link on the Internet denying the Climategate scandal. It must be true, then!
 
Old 11-25-2014, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Do you really believe that?
Yes, I really believe I have such a list. I'm sorry if it doesn't tell you what you want to hear, but I can't help that.
 
Old 11-25-2014, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post
Yes, I really believe I have such a list. I'm sorry if it doesn't tell you what you want to hear, but I can't help that.
For every link you post which denies the Climategate scandal, I can post one confirming it.
 
Old 11-25-2014, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Where you aren't
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Originally Posted by Fleet View Post
Yes, if they won't admit to the Climategate scandal, that reveals a lot.
They know their tricks have been exposed, but they can't and won't ever admit defeat, no matter how much they're proven wrong. It is like the democrats thinking they won the 2014 election, even though they lost big time.
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