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Old 11-25-2014, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Obama didn't pick a side what the hell are people talking about?!
Seriously? He made it pretty clear he was "disappointed."
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Old 11-25-2014, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Seriously? He made it pretty clear he was "disappointed."
How did he "make that clear"?

Transcript: Obama
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:55 PM
 
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Obama didn't pick a side what the hell are people talking about?!
They have no clue, but remember, whatever Obama does must be wrong to rightwingers, therefore saying that everyone should be nonviolent and work to come closer together is "divisive".
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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He seemed pissed. His words were empty.
Given that his "bosses", Valerie Jarrett and Michele, indirectly write his speeches, influence what he can say, not say, he was probably pissed off that he couldn't write his own speech!

Now let's hear from President Obama!

Well, is there any surprise whatsoever when it comes to a violent protest in this country!!!

It's a no-brainer, that he'd actually encourage violence!
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:20 AM
 
Location: NJ
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westhou"No matter what he said you still would have found something about it to criticize him. I can't wait till he's out of office so all the whining can come to an end."

At which point the anti-women Hillary GOP hysteria will start.

Mainstream GOP are not the intolerant, but right now, they are getting drowned out by the insane wing which hates anyone other than WASP males.
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Old 11-26-2014, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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Obama inserted race into his speech in the first minute or so, which was disgusting of him to do.

Nowhere was race an issue between officer Wilson and Mike Brown, nowhere, and yet Obama referred to racial relation as if they played a factor in this shooting. Then Obama made an inference that improper police conduct was also a factor in the shooting death.

"Finally, we need to recognize that the situation in Ferguson speaks to broader challenges that we still face as a nation. The fact is, in too many parts of this country, a deep distrust exists between law enforcement and communities of color. Some of this is the result of the legacy of racial discrimination in this country. And this is tragic, because nobody needs good policing more than poor communities with higher crime rates. The good news is we know there are things we can do to help. And I’ve instructed Attorney General Holder to work with cities across the country to help build better relations between communities and law enforcement."

Why does he insinuate that police conduct and racism played a factor in the shooting death of Brown? The Grand Jury evidence shows that Brown was the catalyst, his lawless and out of place aggressive and reckless conduct caused his own death, not racism, not improper police conduct.
I'm far from an Obamabot, but there's nothing wrong with what Obama said here. Everybody knows that there is often a distrust between law enforcement and minority (black, Hispanic) communities. Also, it's highly logical that building a relationship between the two will help erode this distrust, making policing more effective, and ultimately lower crime rates. This is a much bigger issue than the specific incident, which I would agree is probably not racially motivated.

Is Obama the best person to say it? Maybe not. But just because he said this doesn't mean it's not true.
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Old 11-26-2014, 07:50 AM
 
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Is Obama the best person to say it? Maybe not. But just because he said this doesn't mean it's not true.
That's exactly what it means to right wingers, and that applies to absolutely everything he says. I'm still waiting for the president to come out in favor of breathing. The fallout in the Conservative world following that statement would end many of the country's problems.
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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He can someone, be it President or Ferguson Nightcrawler be disappointed with the GJ's findings? Are they privy to the evidence prior to the verdict? Why is the Press not asking these questions of people who say "We have been Disgraced", "No justice", etc.? What kind of ball-less wonders work in the media nowadays? Sometimes the women act more like men than the men do.
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Old 11-26-2014, 09:57 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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He can someone, be it President or Ferguson Nightcrawler be disappointed with the GJ's findings? Are they privy to the evidence prior to the verdict? Why is the Press not asking these questions of people who say "We have been Disgraced", "No justice", etc.? What kind of ball-less wonders work in the media nowadays? Sometimes the women act more like men than the men do.
A further question that has not been but should be asked: why did Brown feel he did not need to obey to a lawful request to get out of the street? Would any of this happened if he had just gotten out of the street?
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Old 11-26-2014, 10:03 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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I think it's pretty obvious to any thinking person that Obama's handling of Ferguson has been just about as inept and divisive as many of his actions throughout his career. Rather than rambling about how "unfair" it is that blacks are "profiled" by police, he could have handled it differently. Perhaps in such a way as to defuse a bad situation. Rather than inflame tensions that lead to violence and destruction by a small number of savages in our communities. Not black people, a specific group of thugs and animals.

How about, if Mr. Obama had said something to the effect....

"We have a legal system that has looked at this case, deliberated it extensively, and concluded that the officer did nothing wrong. That in fact, he was violently attacked, not by an innocent teen, but by a violent thug. One that had just committed a crime and weighed in at nearly 300 lbs. Wouldn't any of us have been in fear for their life if attacked by such an individual? I certainly would have. A young man is dead, not because he is black, but because he acted like a criminal and attacked a law enforcement officer. Please, everyone, settle down. When questioned by police, act like the polite, decent human beings that you would like to be treated as. Not as a vicious thug. A man is dead because of his actions. The country doesn't have to bleed because of this. I tell you this as both your president, and as a black man."

Or something similar, instead of performing to a specific audience and giving some credence to whines of "unfairness". Would it had made a difference if our first black president acted like the leader of this country instead of someone pandering for the minority vote? If he had acted as a leader...instead of a victim?

Remember....
"Pants up. Don't loot"
A further thought along these line: note that he did not tell Holder to stop his "investigation". With the federal bias involved here, what if the DOJ finds that it cannot indict Wilson either. Another invitation to the agitators to riot is it not?
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