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Old 11-26-2014, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by nicet4 View Post
Here is more of that Obamacare goodness sure to help the minority community that voted for him!

Obamacare offers firms $3,000 incentive to hire illegals over native-born workers
It's only an incentive if the companies are greedy and don't want to provide benefits to employees.
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's only an incentive if the companies are greedy and don't want to provide benefits to employees.
They have the choise of providing it, or paying the penalty. There is no incentive for illegals.
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:09 PM
 
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They have the choise of providing it, or paying the penalty. There is no incentive for illegals.
But...but...should this nightmare of a so-called "immigration reform" bill pass, they won't be illegals anymore!

If you think that companies, given the choice, won't hire a newly amnestied illegal over an American citizen when they can get away without giving the newly amnestied people Obamacare---well, then, I have some oceanfront property in AZ to sell to you.
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:16 PM
 
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Please explain your understanding of how this "$3,000 incentive" works and how it applies to hiring illegals. You can't - because it's a BS GOP soundbite that doesn't stand scrutiny.
I have absolutely no understanding of it, I asked a question, you avoided it..
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It's a moot point since it turned out there is no such incentive.
its only a moot point if gruber didnt say that employer based insurance will become unfesible over the next 20 years
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:17 PM
 
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They have the choise of providing it, or paying the penalty. There is no incentive for illegals.
If they hire illegals, they wouldnt be paying for either..

its like hiring a 16 year old kid to work under the table..
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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But...but...should this nightmare of a so-called "immigration reform" bill pass, they won't be illegals anymore!

If you think that companies, given the choice, won't hire a newly amnestied illegal over an American citizen when they can get away without giving the newly amnestied people Obamacare---well, then, I have some oceanfront property in AZ to sell to you.
Since they are not given the choise then I don't see how they would get away with it. Do you?
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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its only a moot point if gruber didnt say that employer based insurance will become unfesible over the next 20 years
Gruber lied, so it must be true
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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Since they are not given the choise then I don't see how they would get away with it. Do you?
Did you read my link in post #39?
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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then who's the scum?
Obama for circumventing black letter law.
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:33 PM
 
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Obama for circumventing black letter law.
Which law?
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