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Old 11-26-2014, 08:33 AM
 
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So:

-Obamacare will fine employers if they don't offer health insurance to workers*

* Unless their workers are illegal immigrants granted temporary amnesty and work permits by King Obama. This gives employers a huge incentive to actually hire illegals over American citizens, since they'll be exempt from paying the fines.

Great plan!

…idiot.
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:45 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Under the Affordable Care Act, that means businesses who hire them won’t have to pay a penalty for not providing them health coverage — making them $3,000 more attractive than a similar native-born worker, whom the business by law would have to cover.

“If it is true that the president’s actions give employers a $3,000 incentive to hire those who came here illegally, he has added insult to injury,” said Rep. Lamar Smith, Texas Republican. “




Well, now. Let's see what these business owners do.

If they are already compliant with the law, it will not affect their bottom line at all.

If they fire all of their present employees and only hire the legal illegals so as to get out of providing health insurance, then who's the scum?

Leave it to a republican conservative to instantly see the advantages...to pass on the burden to ordinary taxpayers.
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:50 AM
 
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Not sure how many are not working already of the 5 million he is deferring deportations for $3,000 x perhaps millions is a lot of money. Where is this money coming from? It is despicable that Obama would encourage businesses to hire illegals over Americans. His despicable acts are more and more over the top every day.
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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It's obvious why his promise to put the bill on the internet for all to read before it was voted on was quickly discarded.
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Here is more of that Obamacare goodness sure to help the minority community that voted for him!

Obamacare offers firms $3,000 incentive to hire illegals over native-born workers
The article claims they are ineligible to buy insurance, but that is inaccurate, because anyone can buy insurance. They are not eligible for subsidies.
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Old 11-26-2014, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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This article title is misleading and is a poor use of logical reasoning and deduction
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Old 11-26-2014, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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97 percent of small businesses have less than 50 employees and won't be affected by this. Small comfort to the 3 percent that have 50+ people and spend over a million dollars a year just to pay their employees barely minimum wage. . Of course, that 3 percent is going to hire ALL THE ILLEGALS, too.

So this is a huge outrage.

Of those small businesses in the 3/100th percent category: 96% of those with 50-plus workers already provide insurance.

SO ALL THE ILLEGALS GET TO FIGHT OVER THAT 4 PERCENT OF 3 PERCENT OF COMPANIES THAT ARE LEFT.

ANOTHER HUGE OUTRAGE.
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Old 11-26-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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It's once again Obama simply changing the laws he doesn't like. This is simply another case for the Supreme Court.

The ACA states that "lawfully present immigrants" are subject to the fines as an employee. The courts will strike all of this down. Obama does not have the ability to change laws on his own.

Affordable Care Act - National Immigration Law Center
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Old 11-26-2014, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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The article claims they are ineligible to buy insurance, but that is inaccurate, because anyone can buy insurance. They are not eligible for subsidies.
Exactly. So either way, people were going to be POed at Obama. Either: " My taxes are funding heath care for immigrants." Or "workers are only going to hire immigrants."

Damned either way.
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Old 11-26-2014, 09:08 AM
 
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I can't believe anyone could defend this action. This is so wrong.
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