Obamacare offers firms $3,000 incentive to hire illegals over native-born workers (CNN, health care)

[katzpaw]

Originally Posted by pghquest

I have absolutely no understanding of it, I asked a question, you avoided it..

its only a moot point if gruber didnt say that employer based insurance will become unfesible over the next 20 years

Your question was:
"Tell me something, if its unfeasible for employers to offer insurance to employees, woudlnt a $3K incentive make it far more affordable?"
If a company doesn't offer insurance to their employees then they face an Employer Mandate fee of $3,000 per employee irregardless of their immigration status. There is no "$3K incentive" to hire illegals

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

The OP is making a claim that corporations do not have to provide insurance to immigrants with the temporary visa, but someone already provided a quote from the law saying that is not the case. Corporations have to provide insurance, but the immigrants are not entitled to personal subsidies.

Under the ACA they are not provided insurance. Obama changed the law....he can't do that.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Which law?

I posted it. Or at least an easy explanation of it.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Gruber lied, so it must be true

So what Gruber said, doesnt exist in ACA? Are you sure?

Originally Posted by katzpaw

Your question was:
"Tell me something, if its unfeasible for employers to offer insurance to employees, woudlnt a $3K incentive make it far more affordable?"
If a company doesn't offer insurance to their employees then they face an Employer Mandate fee of $3,000 per employee irregardless of their immigration status. There is no "$3K incentive" to hire illegals

I asked if a $3K incentive would make it far more affordable? The fact that it may or may not exist, doesnt answer the question..

ACA offers far more than $3K incentive to illegals btw. if I hire someone under the table and avoid ACA, and healthcare, I bet this would save more than $3k per year..

ACA encourages this, or at the very least, part time workers.

[colcat]

Originally Posted by Trace21230

Another feather in the cap of the dopes who voted for this imbecile twice.

[bluesjuke]

Originally Posted by Oldglory

Not sure how many are not working already of the 5 million he is deferring deportations for $3,000 x perhaps millions is a lot of money. Where is this money coming from? It is despicable that Obama would encourage businesses to hire illegals over Americans. His despicable acts are more and more over the top every day.

From you & me no doubt.

[bluesjuke]

Originally Posted by pknopp

It's obvious why his promise to put the bill on the internet for all to read before it was voted on was quickly discarded.

Yes, could not have that now could we?

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Under the ACA they are not provided insurance. Obama changed the law....he can't do that.

Didn't you post a part of the law which said they need to be provided insirance if they have the kind of permit they were promised? It's true, which is why this 'incentive' is BS.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by pghquest

So what Gruber said, doesnt exist in ACA? Are you sure?

I don't know. You are quoting a liar. I know you believe every word he says, but don't expect everyone to be as gullible.

[Fox Terrier]

Originally Posted by pghquest

You gave an example of what a business could do LEGALLY and then blamed the business..

I didnt twist your words, that WHAT YOU SAID..

It is so funny to read how the conservatives are so unhappy about more federal laws, until they aren't.