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Old 11-29-2014, 02:54 AM
 
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There's conservatism and then there's this -- a yearning for the world that existed 140 years ago. Wow. Now that's conservative for you. I have never seen a job ad for a "good man" and don't expect to in my lifetime. Jobs require technical skills these days, so yeah .. you're pretty much going to need to acquire skills and knowledge to get a good job. Church attendance isn't going to get you very far in the 21st century. It may have been okay for the 19th, but the times have moved on. I suggest you do too.
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Old 11-29-2014, 05:09 AM
 
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As an example, working knowledge of why there are 2 Koreas? Read "Game Changer" and learn of her staff's despondency as it turned out she didn't know the basics.
If I had to choose between you, as to which understands the Korean split better, I'd choose her. Seeing as how you choose to believe the insipid twaddle in "game changer", you're way too gullible.

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You made up that laundry list, not I. Ironically, in a thread that you started on, of all things, the subject of character. I'd venture to say that speaks volumes of yours.

Or is putting words in somebody else's mouth a sign of character in your circles?
I refer to my previous sentence.
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Old 11-29-2014, 05:15 AM
 
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Has anyone ever figured out why HW Bush chose Dan Quayle to be Vice President of the United States of America?

Wait, I remember.

It's because Dan Quayle looks just like JFK.

People liked JFK.

They hafta like Dan.

That Bush was a shrewd one, he was.

John McCain tried the same trick; he had to secure the dumb votes.
Anyone ever figured out why Obama won?

Was it his "resume"?

Was it his accomplishments in life?

Was it has demonstrated honesty and integrity?

Was it his determination to undo wrong and clean up corruption?

Was it his leadership, where he took on hard things and excelled?

Was it his character, demonstrated in absolute integrity?

What was it? Well, tell us.

Because in any test of ANYTHING, Palin's 50,000% better than Barack H Obama.

So, tell us, what was it? Why did Obama win the Democrat primaries?
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Old 11-29-2014, 05:17 AM
 
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There's conservatism and then there's this -- a yearning for the world that existed 140 years ago. Wow. Now that's conservative for you. I have never seen a job ad for a "good man" and don't expect to in my lifetime. Jobs require technical skills these days, so yeah .. you're pretty much going to need to acquire skills and knowledge to get a good job. Church attendance isn't going to get you very far in the 21st century. It may have been okay for the 19th, but the times have moved on. I suggest you do too.
Translation:

"Integrity and character are out of style - vote for technocrats and hire by the resume, because that trumps a man's character in all things..."

And some people actually still think society isn't doomed...
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Old 11-29-2014, 05:25 AM
 
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Your character had nothing to do with your new car loan. Your job was the only thing needed.
Wrong. He took MY WORD that I had a job.

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Banks make money by loaning money out and getting more money back from the loans. Period.
Had I not made the payments, they would have lost money. I think you don't comprehend risk.

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Did the car dealership consider your character? Nope. They need to sell cars. That's how they make money. Banks sell money to make more money.
The dealership didn't have to trust me. The check I handed them was from the bank, they trusted the bank.

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You could have had a sterling character or you could have been as crooked as a dog's hind leg- no difference to the bank. Your job gave them the legal means to collect the money you owed them through legal means if necessary.
LOL! That's just hilarious. Did you notice we had a debt crisis recently?

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What about the 'character' of the car salesman or the loan officer? Both probably turned someone else away the same week you bought your car. Both sold what the offered to someone else who was a real jerk and a real pain in the butt to both that same week. Both took a greater risk with someone else than you that same week. Both had cream puff deals happen that same week.
Tell me, what risk did the car salesman take? None. All that person needed was someone to agree to buy and sign the papers and hand over money.

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Your character didn't mean doodley-squat to any of that at all.
LOL! Wow... So much you don't know, but think you do.

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These days, since everyone knows much more about your financial history than in earlier times, even a job might not be good enough to land another new car loan for you. Or me.
The debt crisis we just endured (and still are) is proof that not lending on character, but on paper metrics and political theories doesn't work well.
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Old 11-29-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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Your character had nothing to do with your new car loan. Your job was the only thing needed.
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Wrong. He took MY WORD that I had a job.
You really believe the bank didn't check to confirm that you had a job? Wow, it makes your posts arguing about how smart Sarah Palin is make so much sense now. For some reason the phrase "dumb and dumber" comes to mind.
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Old 11-29-2014, 09:50 AM
 
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You really believe the bank didn't check to confirm that you had a job? Wow, it makes your posts arguing about how smart Sarah Palin is make so much sense now. For some reason the phrase "dumb and dumber" comes to mind.
No, he did not.

I know. Because the whole process started with me, unknown to him, walking into the bank, and me, walking out with a check - and he never called my employer. The only person he called was the dealership, to verify the car was still there (not yet purchased) and the price.

I sat at his desk the entire time. And so did he.

You judge people's character by partisan politics. The wisdom in that is... nil.
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:08 AM
 
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Anyone ever figured out why Obama won?

Was it his "resume"?

Was it his accomplishments in life?

Was it has demonstrated honesty and integrity?

Was it his determination to undo wrong and clean up corruption?

Was it his leadership, where he took on hard things and excelled?

Was it his character, demonstrated in absolute integrity?

What was it? Well, tell us.

Because in any test of ANYTHING, Palin's 50,000% better than Barack H Obama.

So, tell us, what was it? Why did Obama win the Democrat primaries?
I'm wondering if people voted for O'Bama because they hoped he WASN'T the previous.

The previous stunk to high heaven.

Everyone I see running now stinks to high heaven.

They stink to me, too, and I'm ground level.

Ron Paul, yes; Rand Paul, no.

Sarah Palin is stupid and ignorant - those two things work together for her.

You can imagine what kind of people are attracted to her.

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Old 11-29-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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I'm wondering if people voted for O'Bama because they hoped he WASN'T the previous.

The previous stunk to high heaven.

Everyone I see running now stinks to high heaven.

They stink to me, too, and I'm ground level.

Ron Paul, yes; Rand Paul, no.
I actually think that finding out WHY people voted for Obama would be very enlightening.

Not the "choose the best answer" kind of poll, but an open ended question of "why"?

I have theories about it, most of which revolve around apathy and emotional manipulation, but those are just theories. In the end, asking people why they did something that didn't make sense often reveals things one would never dream of.
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:14 AM
 
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No, he did not.

I know. Because the whole process started with me, unknown to him, walking into the bank, and me, walking out with a check - and he never called my employer. The only person he called was the dealership, to verify the car was still there (not yet purchased) and the price.

I sat at his desk the entire time. And so did he.

You judge people's character by partisan politics. The wisdom in that is... nil.
LOL. Sure he did. Because you looked like an honest kid and banks routinely just hand checks over to kids who look honest.

You've got to love the Internet, where people can invent anything and claim it is the truth. Unfortunately for you, for a fabrication to fool people it has to at least be believable on its face. This fiction of a bank simply writing a check and handing it over because you "looked honest" doesn't even begin to rise to that level of believability. (I suspect you may have left out a fact or two, like maybe Daddy was there to co-sign for you, and his employment status was already known to the bank from accounts and/or previous transactions??)

Nice try, but don't quit your day job to become a fiction writer. You kinda suck at it.
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