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Old 12-05-2014, 04:21 PM
 
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The equities market is the biggest bubble in history. It has been created on the backs of employees by cutting their hours, and even forcing them out of jobs because of automation, age, cutting benefits...etc. Those who are still on the job have lost 10-15% of their buying power because of this out of control devaluation of the currency. Such a thing helps exports, but is a hidden tax which raises the COL. All of this is great for employers bottom lines, but sucks for the non managerial employees.

If the participation rate is lowered enough, unemployment wil go to 0%. 1-2% unemployment is great, unless participation rates fall to get to those numbers.

I expect something to "pop" in late 2015 to early 2016. I expect Obama to leave an even bigger mess than GWB did. If $5T of debt is "unpatriotic" what is $10T?
Lets not forget that people are flooding the stock market because the bond market sucks.. Federal T Bills are paying something like .1%
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Old 12-05-2014, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I guess you were not invested when Bush was in office: we made a few bucks then, just like now. Not at the beginning, but unless you plan to cash out tomorrow or whenever, it is the long run that matters, not a few months or even years. What was the market when he took over and say, what was it 6 years later? Now, most of us who follow the market at all know the sitting President has little to do with the market.
The policy of a Lasiez faire Administration (Bush) was the issue. Today we see increased employment, more money going into 401(k)'s and pension plans. The number today is in line with traditional stock market growth about 8% for the year. If the economy shows the same rate of growth and GDP runs around 3% expect that same 8% next year or around 19500 on the Dow.
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Old 12-05-2014, 05:58 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Today could be the day!
So what? What does that mean for the average American? Nothing!

The Stock Market isn't the economy.
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Old 12-05-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Did the Fed end QE in October?
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Old 12-05-2014, 07:19 PM
 
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Been making passive money hand over fist since March of 2009.
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Old 12-05-2014, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Did the Fed end QE in October?
yes and no

part of QE is keeping interest rates abnormally low...

so although QE has ended in parts,,,it has not ended in all aspects
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Old 12-06-2014, 02:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The policy of a Lasiez faire Administration (Bush) was the issue. Today we see increased employment, more money going into 401(k)'s and pension plans. The number today is in line with traditional stock market growth about 8% for the year. If the economy shows the same rate of growth and GDP runs around 3% expect that same 8% next year or around 19500 on the Dow.
Laissez faire??? You're kidding right? Since when are bailouts laissez faire?
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Old 12-06-2014, 03:38 AM
 
Location: Florida
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And the bubble keeps growing... after all, the banks have to put that loot somewhere that the government keeps giving them.


When will the bubble burst.. It is going to be a big KABOOM when it breaks and there will be many losers.
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Old 12-06-2014, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I agree. I was speaking to workingclasshero suggesting some partisan bent on Wall Street.

Everyone wants to get paid. Neither party has anything remotely approaching a market monopoly.
Wall Street, at least the money that has to be disclosed, tends to favor winners, regardless of their party.

No clue the domestic and international sources of the dark money donated to the Superpacs or what they expect in return.

No clue how many are the same angel donors to ISIS.
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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yep more corporatism fascism from the liberals


liberals the party of wall street not main street




Here's just some ties;

A List of Goldman Sachs Ties to the Obama Government–including Elena Kagan | Dregs of the Future




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