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It really wouldn't be the place of the University to thoroughly investigate it, only report it, which they did.
Surprisingly many universities are the starting point for rape or assault charges, I don't believe there is anything preventing the accuser from going to police but that is the way it works. The Florida State was doing it's own investigation relative to Jameis Winston.
Surprisingly many universities are the starting point for rape or assault charges, I don't believe there is anything preventing the accuser from going to police but that is the way it works. The Florida State was doing it's own investigation relative to Jameis Winston.
They will as they have to decide whether or not to take their own actions but the criminal part is done by the authorities. Universities aren't set up to nor are they capable to investigate things like this.
If they want to kick a player off a team, they will do an investigation but it's not going to be a criminal one. In the case here, the school quickly reported the allegations to the authorities.
In the case here, the school quickly reported the allegations to the authorities.
...closed down the Fraternity that the chick lied about. And, they never pressed charges against the students (or outsiders) who vandalized the fraternity.
Rolling Stone jumped the gun without having all the facts and there was inconsistencies in her story but that doesn't necessary mean she was lying. The investigators were unable to establish that a rape occurred, that does not equate to a hoax.
Oh plenty of blame goes to RS, believe me. Especially on the author of the article and the editor of the magazine. But, it all started with the lying of Coackley. Yes, she was lying. She lied about being raped (said it was a Rush party at the fraternity-UVA rushes in Spring not in the fall when she alleged the rape happened). She lied about being raped on a broken glass table, lied about being raped with a bottle, and moreover she was just catfishing someone into existence in order to win the attention of another guy. She forged text messages, emails and letters from a made up guy in order to make a dude she was keen on like her. Hoax.
This is a crazy hoax from a very unsettled young woman. And the female author wanted so badly for this to have happened that she bought it hook line and stinker. Go back and read the original article from RS, you can hear the bias dripping from the page.
The article doesn't even stand up to a cursory investigation, it was so fabricated.
...closed down the Fraternity that the chick lied about. And, they never pressed charges against the students (or outsiders) who vandalized the fraternity.
Yes, they over reacted but that isn't what was being discussed.
Yes, they over reacted but that isn't what was being discussed.
The thread was resurrected because the Dean is suing, the general discussion has/was/and always should be about the hoax that this is. Like I've mentioned before the more these hoaxes come out and and perpetrated through the media it puts actual rape survivors at risk. Extreme risk and why that doesn't bother other people is baffling. There was an actual rape and murder at UVA, but nobody mentions Jesse Matthew (who may be on the hook for a bunch more rapes and murders) because this is more of what people want to see, not reality but what they want to be true.
This mentally disturbed young lady caused all this uproar because the guy she liked wasn't interested in her. The university overreacted, the media overreacted, people everywhere overreacted. Hell Gary Trudeau with his Doonesbury came out with a inane biased cartoon (even after this was known to be a hoax) about this thing. You have a large contingent of people who wanted this thing very badly to be true and it turns out it wasn't. And so many people dismiss it with a hand wave, I'm not sure why its OK for many in this country to accept reporting and journalism like this.
Question; If the media can get cases like this so wrong, what else are they wrong on? My guess is that they're wrong on a lot of things. Once you start following these stories beyond their conventional timeframes in our hyper paced news cycle you'll find, like I am, that media is wrong...not just wrong...but lying about a great many of the things they "report" on.
And I get that most people are not as passionate about being lied to from the media on a daily basis like me. I understand that. We've aligned ourselves behind a (D)ick party and a (R)etard party and for some, who have nothing else of consequence in their lives, enjoy being on the "right team" and constantly (like little babies playing peek-a-boo within themselves in the mirror) go to the same websites that tell them excatly what they want to hear over and over and over. I don't get that mindset and I understand that the way I look at news takes time, criticism, and logical questioning of media assumptions and for those who only want good news for their "team" and bad news for the "other" team...can't handle the move away from their comfortable hate zones.
The thread was resurrected because the Dean is suing, the general discussion has/was/and always should be about the hoax that this is. Like I've mentioned before the more these hoaxes come out and and perpetrated through the media it puts actual rape survivors at risk. Extreme risk and why that doesn't bother other people is baffling. This mentally disturbed young lady caused all this uproar because the guy she liked wasn't interested in her. The university overreacted, the media overreacted, people everywhere overreacted. Hell Gray Trudeau with his Doonesbury came out with a inane biased cartoon (even after this was known to be a hoax) about this thing. You have a large contingent of people who wanted this thing very badly to be true and it turns out it wasn't it. And so many people dismiss it with a hand wave, I'm not sure why its OK for many in this country to accept reporting and journalism like this.
Rolling Stone has been condemned by nearly everyone and they are going to pay a very steep price for what they did. Do you want them shot?
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Question; If the media can get cases like this so wrong, what else are they wrong on? My guess is that they're wrong on a lot of things. Once you start following these stories beyond their conventional timeframes in our hyper paced news cycle you'll find, like I am, that media is wrong...not just wrong...but lying about a great many of the things they "report" on.
The media is one of the most distrusted organizations in the country.
Rolling Stone has been condemned by nearly everyone and they are going to pay a very steep price for what they did. Do you want them shot?
Shot? What a silly thing to say. Yeah the "media" is distrusted. One side thinks its only Fox that lies, the other side thinks its only CNN/MSNBC that lies. Again, aligned to your favorites team. They're all liars and so is the woman at the center of this hoax. I want her to have to account for what she did. I don't think the Rubin-Ederly should still be working at RS, or in any context as a Journalist. I want people to look at cases like this and display a little common sense. Just because something confirms your bias does not make it true. Cops hunting black people down, certain people assume those are all true. Disgusting. All blacks are criminals, certain people assume those are all true. Disgusting. Everything Obama does is wrong/socialism/bad for the country and certain people assume that's all true. Disgusting.
I want people to be disgusted at their own bias's. I want people to not trust ANYONE in the media to tell them the straight story. I want people to quit being so partisian and so goddamn snotty about everything.
It's all disgusting. People are disgusting and so absolutely bat**** stupid that...well I'm not sure I have much faith in too many people at all.
Shot? What a silly thing to say. Yeah the "media" is distrusted. One side thinks its only Fox that lies, the other side thinks its only CNN/MSNBC that lies. Again, aligned to your favorites team. They're all liars and so is the woman at the center of this hoax. I want her to have to account for what she did. I don't think the Rubin-Ederly should still be working at RS, or in any context as a Journalist. I want people to look at cases like this and display a little common sense. Just because something confirms your bias does not make it true. Cops hunting black people down, certain people assume those are all true. Disgusting. All blacks are criminals, certain people assume those are all true. Disgusting. Everything Obama does is wrong/socialism/bad for the country and certain people assume that's all true. Disgusting.
I want people to be disgusted at their own bias's. I want people to not trust ANYONE in the media to tell them the straight story. I want people to quit being so partisian and so goddamn snotty about everything.
It's all disgusting. People are disgusting and so absolutely bat**** stupid that...well I'm not sure I have much faith in too many people at all.
And this one is about the media, and its about the lying women and the damage both of them have done. It's about a bullying college administration playing whack-a-mole in the hopes that doing something (no matter how unjust and wrongheaded) and being inept. It's about a lot of things but I get that many don't think its a big deal, *chuckle* just some random chick having a little mischief at others expense. Ah, no worries the reporter didn't fact check anything...there's a serial rapist/murder but why cry over spilled milk?
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