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Easier said then done...im sure the entire black race will all make their own luck and all strike rich or succeed..Then no one will be poor again...what fantasy world do you live in? A world where you succeed no matter what if you try hard enough?
You would be better off writing Disney movies than posting on this forum...Just Believe in yourself and you will win!!!! ....
works only in theory.
Wrong.
It is an essential part of succeeding.
If you do not believe in yourself, you cannot, absolutely CANNOT succeed.
I am beginning to wonder if people think about these things at all.
In the 30's, it was vastly harder for a black person to be a financial (or any other) success. Yet, the "black ghettos" basically did not exist. The problems today that are far too much associated with "black" also didn't exist to anywhere near the extent they do today.
So, will you blame the progress of civil rights, voting, the abolition of institutionalized (by law and enforcement) of racial discrimination?
Because since the 30's, all those have occurred. We no longer have those laws on the books. The Klan no longer has ANY political power (it took the Democrats down in the South with it... That "hotbed" of racism) and it is despised by the country almost universally.
Society has changed, dramatically. Yet, the plight of certain people has worsened, not improved.
If the flaws were caused by racism and slavery, would not the problems have DECREASED, not increased?
Millions of black Americans have lives indistinguishable from any other American. They have jobs, own businesses, get educations, make movies, make music, get elected to office, and all the rest. But some do not.
Why do you not compare what those who succeed do, to those who do not?
Because it refutes liberalism.
Guess what increased after the 1930s. Police brutality, racial profiling, the War on Drugs, de facto segregation, the burning of black churches and other acts of terrorism. If you continue to treat a race of people as savages after centuries of enslaving them, how can you then insist that they behave just as a normal American citizens?
No, actually, it isn't plain and simple. The primary evidence of this is that black destabilization has been increasing rather than decreasing over the last 50 years. During the time period in which conditions have been improving for minorities, the black community has been declining in family stability, drug use, and unemployment. Were your contention truly plain and simple as you claim, the black community would be on an upward trend in these areas rather than the downward trend it is on.
Given this fact, the rest of your huge post is largely irrelevant.
Guess what increased after the 1930s. Police brutality, racial profiling, the War on Drugs, de facto segregation, the burning of black churches and other acts of terrorism. If you continue to treat a race of people as savages after centuries of enslaving them, how can you then insist that they behave just as a normal American citizens?
Please respond to what I said, not try to change the subject to irrelevancies.
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Society has changed, dramatically. Yet, the plight of certain people has worsened, not improved.
If the flaws were caused by racism and slavery, would not the problems have DECREASED, not increased?
Millions of black Americans have lives indistinguishable from any other American. They have jobs, own businesses, get educations, make movies, make music, get elected to office, and all the rest. But some do not.
Why do you not compare what those who succeed do, to those who do not?
Please respond to what I said, not try to change the subject to irrelevancies.
Gauntlet thrown.
I felt that I had already addressed that issue earlier by pointing out that some blacks (like myself) are born into advantages or given advantages along the way that other blacks do not have. If that fact doesn't satisfy your question then I may be misunderstanding what you are asking.
Guess what increased after the 1930s. Police brutality, racial profiling, the War on Drugs, de facto segregation, the burning of black churches and other acts of terrorism. If you continue to treat a race of people as savages after centuries of enslaving them, how can you then insist that they behave just as a normal American citizens?
I'm black, and I INSIST that my children behave like normal American citizens, because that's exactly what they are. My parents and my parents' parents expected no less of our behavior and expectations. My grandparents grew up poor, dirt floor, corn mush and canned beans eating poor in fact, during the depression in Virginia, during the Jim Crow era we love alluding to. And they didn't lend too many excuses (especially racial) to any of us. If we failed at something, it was because WE failed; it wasn't because the white man failed us, because the police treated us badly, etc. My grandfather saw some things happen to black people that we only read about in text books. He could've lectured us from sun up to sun down about how the white man was keeping us down, based on everything he witnessed, but that stuff was virtually irrelevant to his expectations of all of us and how WE contributed to our success or failure.
I'm black, and I INSIST that my children behave like normal American citizens, because that's exactly what they are. My parents and my parents' parents expected no less of our behavior and expectations. My grandparents grew up poor, dirt floor, corn mush and canned beans eating poor in fact, during the depression in Virginia, during the Jim Crow era we love alluding to. And they didn't lend too many excuses (especially racial) to any of us. If we failed at something, it was because WE failed; it wasn't because the white man failed us, because the police treated us badly, etc. My grandfather saw some things happen to black people that we only read about in text books. He could've lectured us from sun up to sun down about how the white man was keeping us down, based on everything he witnessed, but that stuff was virtually irrelevant to his expectations of all of us and how WE contributed to our success or failure.
It sounds like you come from a family of strong father figures. Surely you understand that most blacks are not so fortunate, and that their experiences would have likely been very different from your family's. I'm sure you would admit that even your parents and grandparents worked and fought much harder than whites to get the same things they have, so imagine how much more difficult it would be for blacks who weren't lucky enough to have the same foundation that you did.
It sounds like you come from a family of strong father figures. Surely you understand that most blacks are not so fortunate, and that their experiences would have likely been very different from your family's. I'm sure you would admit that even your parents and grandparents worked and fought much harder than whites to get the same things they have, so imagine how much more difficult it would be for blacks who weren't lucky enough to have the same foundation that you did.
Fortunately, I did come from a family of strong father figures. And yes, they did have to work much harder than whites to get to the same point. But the men in our family CHOSE to be good men in spite of their circumstances. My friend and coworker, Eric, whose father had children all over this city and was in-and-out, is one of the best fathers I know. He didn't have a big family and a bunch of strong male role models, but he made the choice to be the best father he could be. My point is that, in 2014, we (black people) are in control of our destiny in this country. Some don't have it as good as others, true. But, at some point, someone has to make a decision to change. Life isn't fair for anyone, for any million number of reasons, be it racism, bad genetics, poverty, etc. However, instead of striving for greatness despite our circumstances and despite our unsavory history, too many of us black people would rather preach the past into the present, as if we're dealing with crippling racism of the 50's. And there are black intellectuals, who, instead of educating others on how they made it despite the circumstances, are telling them that they are perpetual victims and that all of their problems are someone else's fault and responsibility to fix.
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