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And a gay bakery must sell cakes to anti-gay occations? African American bakeries must sell to KKK parties?
How many threads have there been on this topic and how many times do people need 'protected class' explained to them? Over and over and over, yet it never seems to sink in.
Age, gender, religion, disability, race, veteran status etc are protected classes. In some states sexual orientation is a protected class.
Belonging to a KKK group or an anti-gay group is not a protected class. And before you bring up the other usual nonsense example with a Jewish baker and bacon, eating bacon is not a protected class either.
This case is one for the lawyers and the law to decipher. I don't know if a bakery business is required to write on a customer's cake. Seems like a frivolous lawsuit to me, but I'm not a lawyer.
Dude, the definitive is the message of "HATE", how can you not see that? Come on now, you are just being stubborn. The gay pride shirts were not about hate, the message on the cake was about hate.
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Dude, or Dudess, whichever you are. Follow the bouncing inconsistency ---
From post #2 defense of the baker --- "Except that baker doesn't do cakes with offensive writing on them for anyone."
That's the same defense used by the t-shirt company --- they would not make those shirts for anyone.
If the policy is a defense in one case it should be in the other, regardless of the message.
We don't yet have laws against 'hate' speech or refraining from 'pride' speech.
Dude, or Dudess, whichever you are. Follow the bouncing inconsistency ---
From post #2 defense of the baker --- "Except that baker doesn't do cakes with offensive writing on them for anyone."
That's the same defense used by the t-shirt company --- they would not make those shirts for anyone.
If the policy is a defense in one case it should be in the other, regardless of the message.
We don't yet have laws against 'hate' speech or refraining from 'pride' speech.
How is "5 pride festival Lexington" offensive? It isn't saying "hate" anyone, or even "love" anyone. It says the city, the event name, and the 5 is for the 5th year of the festival.
Does the tee shirt printer refuse to do other events where the city, and event name are listed? Does he not like the number 5? Maybe he dislikes festivals.
The baker said she would not write anything about hating anyone on a cake for anyone. Does the printer not print 5s on anything for anyone, or the city name Lexington?
See, the cake in question was to have the lovely text "God hates homosexuality." RebelCreator, you're not supposed to admit that "pro-marriage" actually is about hate. Say it's about maintaining the dignity of the institution. Say it's about tradition.
The fact that it's actually about hate? That's not to be divulged.
Y'know, you and yours have spent years trying to convince the rest of the world that your opposition to gay marriage had nothing to do with a dislike for gays. The point made by these people (and those, like you, who support them) is pretty damn clear: It was never about maintaining the institution or upholding tradition. You simply feel that homosexuality should be hated. There's your point.
You assume that I hate gay people. I don't. I have gay friends and I support same-sex marriage. You also assume any opposition to gay marriage is strictly due to hate. This issue simply isn't that black and white. I know deeply religious people who both oppose gay marriage and don't have the slightest bit of hatred towards them.
I support religious freedom, which is why I'm in the middle of things. I see both sides. You're going to be stepping on someone's rights either way. The difference is the gay couple can easily find another cake shop while the baker has to choose between getting fined, sued and boycotted or doing something that violates their religious beliefs.
Dude, or Dudess, whichever you are. Follow the bouncing inconsistency ---
From post #2 defense of the baker --- "Except that baker doesn't do cakes with offensive writing on them for anyone."
That's the same defense used by the t-shirt company --- they would not make those shirts for anyone.
If the policy is a defense in one case it should be in the other, regardless of the message.
We don't yet have laws against 'hate' speech or refraining from 'pride' speech.
Cute, but it doesn't work that way. The state law says you can't discriminate based on sexuality. I'm also pretty sure they aren't not making pride shirts for other groups. What happened there is that they found out that the people ordering the shirts were doing it for a gay pride parade and they balked. I'm pretty sure if someone made a "Christian Pride" t-shirt, that they would make it.
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