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View Poll Results: Which nation is most likely to war against the U.S. that could actually win?
The U.K. 4 4.88%
India 1 1.22%
Russia 23 28.05%
China 54 65.85%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-25-2015, 01:59 PM
 
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China is a threat. Over the past decade, their military spending has tripled and they are currently doubling the number of aircraft carriers in their fleet --- which is to say they're building a second one. (And even though they have tripled their military budget, they're still only spending one-third of what the U.S. spends annually). The U.S. is way, way ahead in the arms race. Our main vulnerability is how board our interests are. China can focus mainly on Asia. Russia can focus mainly on Europe -- we're all over the map, literally. On the other hand, we don't have to focus on the America's because we're surrounded by friends and allies.
China is a sovereign state with the right to increase its defense spending to whatever level it wishes to increase it to. Considering the US and its allies impose an arms embargo and encircles China with bases in South Korea, Japan, and the Philippines; I think it has every right to increase its defense spending.
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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China is a sovereign state with the right to increase its defense spending to whatever level it wishes to increase it to. Considering the US and its allies impose an arms embargo and encircles China with bases in South Korea, Japan, and the Philippines; I think it has every right to increase its defense spending.
I agree. I don't even think China poses much of a threat to be honest. Sure, it has tripled its military spending, but what does that really amount to if it's still a third of ours.
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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It seems to me that the USA has had a habit of losing wars for the last 50 years. So the question really should be, Who could the USA defeat in a war? There has been one little pipsqueak nation 50 miles off the shore of the USA who has been thumbing it's nose at Uncle Sam for 50 years and there seems nothing you could do about it!!!! If you can't beat Cuba then who can you?
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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All of Islam in the unending Jihad that started centuries ago against the world of rationality and sense.
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:13 PM
 
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All of Islam in the unending Jihad that started centuries ago against the world of rationality and sense.
Cool story, what's your opinion about the topic at hand?
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:56 PM
 
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It seems to me that the USA has had a habit of losing wars for the last 50 years. So the question really should be, Who could the USA defeat in a war? There has been one little pipsqueak nation 50 miles off the shore of the USA who has been thumbing it's nose at Uncle Sam for 50 years and there seems nothing you could do about it!!!! If you can't beat Cuba then who can you?
You should brush up on the facts of the matter. As part of the agreement with the USSR to end the Cuban missle crisis, the USA agreed to not invade Cuba. We got what we wanted, no nukes on the island.
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:58 PM
 
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No one will be able to even come close to invading the U.S. in the foreseeable (several decades out) future. If you're Russia or China and you really have to have a war to the death with the U.S., your only real option is nukes. Too bad using nukes would pretty much guarantee your country will be wiped off the planet. Any war with Russia or China the U.S. may have in the future won't be fought on U.S. soil.
One of the very few here who has gotten it right. 95% of the posters here think that a direct war with either country would be fought like it was still WWII. It won't be anything like that.

There won't be a winner in such a war. Just a lot of losers.
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:14 PM
 
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A single ballistic submarine as found in the US or Russian fleets that executes a full release of its SLBMs outfitted with thermonuclear MRVs, is fully capable of flattening over 150 cities. These can be launched from anywhere in the world and there is, effectively no defense once launched. This is why both sides maintain a fleet of hunter/killer subs to take out as many ballistic subs as it can if war ever came.

In 30 minutes to 1 hour, the major population centers of both nations would be gone assuming each MRV made it to it's target. This is what major war means for the Russians and USA now. It's not going to happen until it does, and if it does, the ones left behind will be the unfortunate ones. And this would be from just one submarine. Each country has dozens like this.

A war like this will only last a few hours. It won't matter after that.

(And this is just from the submarines. There are may more nukes beyond that. )
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:24 AM
 
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Yes, and you think it would be a breeze for the U.S. to stop those hundreds of thousands of troops?
Yes, 100,00 troops being sent to our shores would be a complicated operation; even the US being technologically superior to every other country would find complications invading China let alone occupying it.
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I agree. I don't even think China poses much of a threat to be honest. Sure, it has tripled its military spending, but what does that really amount to if it's still a third of ours.
uhm...china's military is about the size of our ENTIRE population

and china is nuclear
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