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Old 02-01-2015, 09:07 PM
 
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Experts: Iran Now a Nuclear-Ready State, Missiles Capable of Hitting US

Experts: Iran Now a Nuclear-Ready State, Missiles Capable of Hitting US

"Regardless of intelligence uncertainties and unknowns about Iran's nuclear weapons and missile programs, we know enough now to make a prudent judgment that Iran should be regarded by national security decision makers as a nuclear missile state capable of posing an existential threat to the United States and its allies.

On Jan. 22, The Jerusalem Post reported that Iran deployed an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of reaching the United States. It was also shown on Israeli television."
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This is a failure of unimaginable proportions, it cannot be overstated how disastrous for the mideast and world with a monstrous, cancerous dictatorship like iran's current diseased, fake regime - currently occupying four other countries - achieving a nuclear weapons umbrella.

This is the very definition of failure, and the lack of coverage and focus on it by the leftwing media like the NY Times and its media allies is almost as horrific.

How did it come to over TEN YEARS of failed "negotiations" that obama, perhaps the worst president this nation has ever endured, was unable to stem the iranian nuclear weapons march armed with 4 UNSC resolutions behind him requiring iran to cease enrichment, and the greatest military known to man?

There are no words to describe this lunacy, and as a failure it is matched by few others in US history.

 
Old 02-01-2015, 09:13 PM
 
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Obama really has no options in reality. the democratic congress has cut; cut ; cut defense spending like they did in the hollow military 70's. Clinton's so called peace dividend has been a disaster for present problems. When Bush Sr. went into Gulf War; for example; we had 180 squadrons of fighters. Now we have 50 and they are being cut to 40 because the money is needed to keep them deployable. Same with Army and Navy. We can not mount a Gulf War scale mission ;plain and simple.10 years plus to get back to that level. Europe is even worse off and really nothing militarily they can do in Ukraine.
 
Old 02-01-2015, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Originally Posted by madisonr View Post
experts: Iran now a nuclear-ready state, missiles capable of hitting us

experts: Iran now a nuclear-ready state, missiles capable of hitting us

"regardless of intelligence uncertainties and unknowns about iran's nuclear weapons and missile programs, we know enough now to make a prudent judgment that iran should be regarded by national security decision makers as a nuclear missile state capable of posing an existential threat to the united states and its allies.

On jan. 22, the jerusalem post reported that iran deployed an intercontinental ballistic missile (icbm) capable of reaching the united states. It was also shown on israeli television."
=======================

this is a failure of unimaginable proportions, it cannot be overstated how disastrous for the mideast and world with a monstrous, cancerous dictatorship like iran's current diseased, fake regime - currently occupying four other countries - achieving a nuclear weapons umbrella.

This is the very definition of failure, and the lack of coverage and focus on it by the leftwing media like the ny times and its media allies is almost as horrific.

how did it come to over ten years of failed "negotiations" that obama, perhaps the worst president this nation has ever endured, was unable to stem the iranian nuclear weapons march armed with 4 unsc resolutions behind him requiring iran to cease enrichment, and the greatest military known to man?

there are no words to describe this lunacy, and as a failure it is matched by few others in us history.
Obama there were 10 years and you failed so bad with failed "negotiations."
Stupid Obama.

Some might say you didn't have 10 years as president but those people are just making excuses because you are Obama.

Why mention 10 years and blame Bush like the OP. Don't be like the OP and blame Bush ,Obama, you had 10 years.

10 Years. You have a time machine Obama. And also, Obama is why all things ...Obama. Blame the Obama.

Obama.
 
Old 02-01-2015, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Experts: Iran Now a Nuclear-Ready State, Missiles Capable of Hitting US

Experts: Iran Now a Nuclear-Ready State, Missiles Capable of Hitting US

"Regardless of intelligence uncertainties and unknowns about Iran's nuclear weapons and missile programs, we know enough now to make a prudent judgment that Iran should be regarded by national security decision makers as a nuclear missile state capable of posing an existential threat to the United States and its allies.

On Jan. 22, The Jerusalem Post reported that Iran deployed an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of reaching the United States. It was also shown on Israeli television."
=======================

This is a failure of unimaginable proportions, it cannot be overstated how disastrous for the mideast and world with a monstrous, cancerous dictatorship like iran's current diseased, fake regime - currently occupying four other countries - achieving a nuclear weapons umbrella.

This is the very definition of failure, and the lack of coverage and focus on it by the leftwing media like the NY Times and its media allies is almost as horrific.

How did it come to over TEN YEARS of failed "negotiations" that obama, perhaps the worst president this nation has ever endured, was unable to stem the iranian nuclear weapons march armed with 4 UNSC resolutions behind him requiring iran to cease enrichment, and the greatest military known to man?

There are no words to describe this lunacy, and as a failure it is matched by few others in US history.
1) The president has been in office for 6 years, and you're talking about a problem you say is 10 years old. Basic math suggests you have no idea what you're talking about

2) this problem is far older than 10 years, so basic history agree with basic math that you are indeed just here to bash Obama.

3) Basic history also confirms that Obama is definitely not the worst president we've ever had

4) Rather or not we like it (and I don't), but Iran can build nuclear weapons if it wants. At this point, we need to make sure Iran won't use them, but we aren't technically authorized to meddle with a sovereign state's ability to produce weapons of mass destruction (which we also have, and quite a few more than Iran does). Peace with Iran is needed now more than ever

5) Obama is not the only world leader involved in this. Every other Western European nation is just as affected by this. America and Obama are not here to baby sit the world and solve all of it's problems.

6) yes, our foreign policy is a joke. This isn't new though. It's been a joke since at least 2001, but realistically, we could trace this all the way back to the 80s. But what good would that do. Let's just focus on fixing the foreign policy for the present so we can ensure that Iran does not ever feel like it needs to use those nukes.
 
Old 02-01-2015, 10:06 PM
 
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Obama really has no options in reality. the democratic congress has cut; cut ; cut defense spending like they did in the hollow military 70's. Clinton's so called peace dividend has been a disaster for present problems. When Bush Sr. went into Gulf War; for example; we had 180 squadrons of fighters. Now we have 50 and they are being cut to 40 because the money is needed to keep them deployable. Same with Army and Navy. We can not mount a Gulf War scale mission ;plain and simple.10 years plus to get back to that level. Europe is even worse off and really nothing militarily they can do in Ukraine.
Well, it is a good thing to downsize the military. It is hugely expensive and the money needs elsewhere. Iran is a second world country. There are plenty of Islamic countries which have access or the capacity to build nuclear weapons. You cannot stop people from developing weapons. The Jihadist has no intrest in United States. They want the United States OUT from the Middle East but they are all willing to trade so I don’t see the problem here. Our involvement in conflicts which is not ours to fight only leads to more problems for them, others and for us. Instead we should stay away from wars and protect our borders and I don’t mean have bases in foreign countries. In the end we cannot afford it anyway so this dream of an ever expanding empire needs to get thrown in the dust bin before we bankrupt this country or becomes isolated from the rest of the world. Look what the Iraq war have lead to – a God dame chaos.

Now we have overthrown the Ukrainian government and replaced it with fascists and liberals and we have done right under the nose under Russia. Russia may be poor but it’s the third most powerful military nation in the world. They have deepened their relationship with China and other nations within the BRIC. You don’t go into the cave of a sleeping bear. Our foolish neo-conservatives together with our Napoleon-poser politicians have walked deep into the cave of the sleeping beer and poked it with a stick. When it didn’t wake up they kicked the bear in the face. Washington has pissed of Russia for years. In the end the bear will bite.
 
Old 02-01-2015, 10:24 PM
 
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Obama there were 10 years and you failed so bad with failed "negotiations."
Stupid Obama.

Some might say you didn't have 10 years as president but those people are just making excuses because you are Obama.

Why mention 10 years and blame Bush like the OP. Don't be like the OP and blame Bush ,Obama, you had 10 years.

10 Years. You have a time machine Obama. And also, Obama is why all things ...Obama. Blame the Obama.

Obama.
In other words, instead of addressing the fact that Obama did nothing to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons, he picks on the 10 year figure when Obama has only been in office 6 years. Ignore a sworn enemy of the United States getting nuclear weapons and instead focus on a math mistake.

This is typical leftist trash tactics.
 
Old 02-01-2015, 10:26 PM
 
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Who cares if Iran has a nuke. It's no threat to us.
 
Old 02-01-2015, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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In other words, instead of addressing the fact that Obama did nothing to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons, he picks on the 10 year figure when Obama was only in office 6 years.

This is typical leftist trash tactics.
Obama has no right to keep nuclear weapons from anyone. The best he can do without overstepping his bounds is maintain a level of stability with Iran so they won't threaten to use those weapons on us. Rather or not he did that is debatable, but we are currently concerned about an impending nuclear attack, so things could be worse. But to consider Obama a failure for allowing a completely sovereign nation to build weapons is unreasonable. Obama is not the president of Iran; he doesn't get to decide what they do.

How would we react if Vladimir Putin came here and said 'no, you can't do that because Russia wouldn't approve.' We would not have that. This means we don't get to do that to Iran. I know we've done things like this before, and we're not used to countries not listening or asking our approval first, but that's gonna happen from time to time. Iran is a big boy and they are no more or less allowed to have nuclear weapons that we are.

If it were up to me, nuclear weapons would not be around at all. No nation should have weapons that powerful at their disposal, but they do and we don't get to decide who has them and who doesn't.
 
Old 02-01-2015, 10:44 PM
 
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As I see the FED is still running the economy on its life support. On foreign policy we are in bigger problems than when Obama arrived. His plan to leave Iraq has failed and he failed to realize Iraq was the key and ISIS filled the vacuum left. his failed plan left there.
 
Old 02-01-2015, 10:45 PM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by texdav View Post
Obama really has no options in reality. the democratic congress has cut; cut ; cut defense spending like they did in the hollow military 70's. Clinton's so called peace dividend has been a disaster for present problems. When Bush Sr. went into Gulf War; for example; we had 180 squadrons of fighters. Now we have 50 and they are being cut to 40 because the money is needed to keep them deployable. Same with Army and Navy. We can not mount a Gulf War scale mission ;plain and simple.10 years plus to get back to that level. Europe is even worse off and really nothing militarily they can do in Ukraine.
Oh please, this isn't 1938 and were talking about mounting an operation against the Wehrmacht. It's the frigging Iranian army, which is about as professional as the Louisiana state militia. We could deploy a battalion of civil war reenactors and still win
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