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Old 02-08-2015, 06:52 AM
 
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Hats and sunglasses should come off.

If you're entering a bank you identity should be clear.
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Hats ok, hoodies will get you shot.
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:21 AM
 
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Bank robbers need to ditch the masks and just dress like a banker to carry out the deed. That ruse has been working for decades and none seem to get caught.
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:22 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Like I said, the fact that people don't see the difference is a big part of the problem.

That's a myopic view. There is no question that security is paramount, but it is not the only consideration. In another thread we're talking about monetary policy. The Fed's dual mandate is maximum employment and stable prices. That doesn't mean that we ignore profitability of business entirely. It is a factor - not a primary factor - but still a factor into the path forward. And in this situation, even though security is the primary factor, protection of religious expression is still a factor, something that needs to be respected and considered, rather than summarily dismissed, as you just did.
That is not really an argument for the simple reason that it doesn't say anywhere in the Koran that anyone should hide their faces. So it is Muslim extremists not familiar with their own religion. Do you really want to defend their practices in the West in the name of religious tolerance?
I think everyone except for the blind should take off their dark glasses, and everyone should take off everything that could hide parts of the face.

No idea what you mean to say with that whole Fed stuff...
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:23 AM
 
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Hats ok, hoodies will get you shot.
that one thing i don't understand, I agree with you, so why do they still do it. I mean if its cold, yes. but the walking a bank with hoodie and glasses will get you shot, period
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:39 AM
 
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that one thing i don't understand, I agree with you, so why do they still do it. I mean if its cold, yes. but the walking a bank with hoodie and glasses will get you shot, period
I don't get where a hoodie is worse than a hat and sunglasses. They both obscure your identity and make you look shady in the context of a bank.
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:46 AM
 
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that one thing i don't understand, I agree with you, so why do they still do it. I mean if its cold, yes. but the walking a bank with hoodie and glasses will get you shot, period
There's nothing in my local news about anyone being shot yesterday for entering a bank wearing a hoodie and glasses.
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:57 AM
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That is not really an argument for the simple reason that it doesn't say anywhere in the Koran that anyone should hide their faces. So it is Muslim extremists not familiar with their own religion.
Except that it is their religion - meaning the people you wrongly* label extremists' not just Muslims'. Mennonites believe differently from Mormons who believe differently from Catholics. None of them practice Christianity incorrectly.

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Do you really want to defend their practices in the West in the name of religious tolerance?
I defend the right of an individual Muslim woman to wear a burka. Do you? Or do you choose to take onto yourself all the sins every extremist of your religion commits, has committed, and ever will commit?

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I think everyone except for the blind should take off their dark glasses, and everyone should take off everything that could hide parts of the face.
Perhaps or perhaps not. I'm more concerned about the refusal to consider other factors rather than the eventual conclusion. That kind of blind intolerance toward others is harmful and inadequate.

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No idea what you mean to say with that whole Fed stuff...
It was an analogy - a comparable set of circumstances associated with an unrelated matter that depict the same form of inference as that which I was making with regard to this matter.

* Wearing a burka does not make one an Islamic extremist, in the manner the term is used by people.
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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People still go inside banks?
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:10 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I do think they are extremists because they go way beyond what their own holy book says.
And if some Christian church or sect said they needed to hide their faces, I would be against that as well and call them extremists.

It is quite simple. In my view the same rules should apply that have to be observed when taking photos for passports, ID cards, etc. The safety of society is more important than the freedom of the individual.
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