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Yes it was, I provided the link, straight from obama.
Or are you admitting you and obama lied?
Been delayed a lot! Heck, the employer mandate has been changed how many times? and the entire ACA has been changed as many as 27+ times...
Which is EXACTLY what I said, continue to read...
Except obama campaigned in EVERY AMERICAN having insurance....I've shown you the link...GO back and read....
LOL...so why did YOU vote for obama? The ACA IS obamas plan...and every dem passed it, without reading it....
So we should NEVER hear you complain EVER again about what a repub campaigned and then did not deliver...
I can GUARANTEE you this, your quote will come up many times in the future...
Wrong on nearly every count.
Obamacare was NOT written by Obama. It was written by CONGRESS.
The President does NOT introduce legislation - PERIOD.
CONGRESS drafts laws.
The President can provide a template for what he wants and give it Congress and hope that they will act on it - that's pretty much it. In the final analysis, Congress writes the law and the President simply chooses to sign the law or veto it. Sometimes Congress will take a Presidents' "template" and act on it more or less as it is - that was NOT the case with Obamacare.
Take a civics class and learn how the country works.
Obamacare was written BY CONGRESS over an extended period of months - and for a while (as is typically the case) the Senate and the House had their own separate versions - NEITHER of which was written by Obama. Eventually the House version was dropped in favor of an amended version of the Senate bill - which was eventually signed into law.
Obama has said several times - even back when he was campaigning - that he would prefer a single-payer system (which Obamacare is NOT) but did not push for that because he didn't think it would get through Congress (and he's probably right - unfortunately). Obamacare is consequently a compromise for Obama - not what he would really like to see, but good enough to meet most of his "wish list". Obamacare is a huge piece of legislation - and as such is NEVER written by a SINGLE PERSON. It was written by a CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE. Obama did NOT write Obamacare - PERIOD. He didn't write it personally, and neither did his staff. It was written by CONGRESS.
In regards to delays, Obamacare is a major piece of legislation so it's not a surprise it's had some delays. Bush's Medicare expansion was a much smaller piece of legislation and even IT had significant delays. While specific pieces of Obamacare have been delayed. in general it's moved forward largely on schedule. Most of the extensions that have taken place were of very specific pieces and of fairly short duration - typically a month or two and represent delays that are now history. The longest delay was the employer mandate section that is partially in effect now (requiring employers with 100+ workers to provide health care option) and will go completely into effect at the end of this year (requiring employers with 50+ workers to do so). Aside from that pretty much all the major longer-term delays are a thing of the past. So no, the "entire ACA" has NOT "been delayed 27+ times".
Ken
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That's because Bush didn't really do much - and even so, we ended up with more regulation under Bush than under Clinton. Regulations tend to increase over time. That's just a fact. Few of such regulations have any real impact on your FREEDOM.
Bush's Patriot Act has far more direct impact on your freedoms than Obamacare does - granting the government broad powers to spy on you and which (under certain circumstances) denies you rights promised under the Bill of Rights (such as the right to council and the right to a speedy trial). Those are far more of a threat to you freedom than the fact that you are required to have health insurance.
Get real.
Wrong on nearly every count.
Obamacare was NOT written by Obama. It was written by CONGRESS.
The President does NOT introduce legislation - PERIOD.
CONGRESS drafts laws.
The President can provide a template for what he wants and give it Congress and hope that they will act on it - that's pretty much it. In the final analysis, Congress writes the law and the President simply chooses to sign the law or veto it. Sometimes Congress will take a Presidents' "template" and act on it more or less as it is - that was NOT the case with Obamacare.
Take a civics class and learn how the country works.
Obamacare was written BY CONGRESS over an extended period of months - and for a while (as is typically the case) the Senate and the House had their own separate versions - NEITHER of which was written by Obama. Eventually the House version was dropped in favor of an amended version of the Senate bill - which was eventually signed into law.
Obama has said several times - even back when he was campaigning - that he would prefer a single-payer system (which Obamacare is NOT) but did not push for that because he didn't think it would get through Congress (and he's probably right - unfortunately). Obamacare is consequently a compromise for Obama - not what he would really like to see, but good enough to meet most of his "wish list". Obamacare is a huge piece of legislation - and as such is NEVER written by a SINGLE PERSON. It was written by a CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE. Obama did NOT write Obamacare - PERIOD. He didn't write it personally, and neither did his staff. It was written by CONGRESS.
In regards to delays, Obamacare is a major piece of legislation so it's not a surprise it's had some delays. Bush's Medicare expansion was a much smaller piece of legislation and even IT had significant delays. While specific pieces of Obamacare have been delayed. in general it's moved forward largely on schedule. Most of the extensions that have taken place were of very specific pieces and of fairly short duration - typically a month or two and represent delays that are now history. The longest delay was the employer mandate section that is partially in effect now (requiring employers with 100+ workers to provide health care option) and will go completely into effect at the end of this year (requiring employers with 50+ workers to do so). Aside from that pretty much all the major longer-term delays are a thing of the past. So no, the "entire ACA" has NOT "been delayed 27+ times".
Ken
Why will you not multi quote people instead of just blathering on when nobody is able to follow you?
So, I'll do what you do:
No, you are wrong..on every account, I never said it was...
Obama has changed the law, like it or not...no matter what congress put forward....if it was not what he wanted, then he should have vetoed it.....
Hahahahaha, a compromise, not a single repub voted for it, maybe take a civics class and understand the difference...
I never said the "entire ACA" you did, so you thought you could prove a point, which you did not...
Please, once again, the "grace" period once again has been extended....
And lets not forget all the waivers that are still out there....
Why will you not multi quote people instead of just blathering on when nobody is able to follow you?
So, I'll do what you do:
No, you are wrong..on every account, I never said it was...
Obama has changed the law, like it or not...no matter what congress put forward....if it was not what he wanted, then he should have vetoed it.....
Hahahahaha, a compromise, not a single repub voted for it, maybe take a civics class and understand the difference...
I never said the "entire ACA" you did, so you thought you could prove a point, which you did not...
Please, once again, the "grace" period once again has been extended....
And lets not forget all the waivers that are still out there....
Yes the law was a compromise. GOP ideas were included in the framework and design. Whether or not the GOP eventually signed on or not is not really relevant - the compromise was ALREADY in the design for the law. They had their chance - and even had KEY GOP IDEAS built into the law (Individual Mandate, Insurance-based system, Exchanges) but apparently their desire to see Obama fail and thus be a "one term" President outweighed their desire to help out the American People with ideas that THEY FIRST PROPOSED. So be it - good riddance. Now, having bad-mouthed the plan so completely (even though it was based on THEIR proposals) they are stuck on the sidelines as the law goes into effect and grants insurance coverage to over 30 MILLION Americans. And even though the law was not exactly what Obama wanted, it met most of his goals so he came aboard. This is called COMPROMISE - something the wingnuts in the GOP apparently do not understand - even when a law is built on a frame PROPOSED BY A GOP THINKTANK and copied from a LAW PUT IN PLACE BY A GOP GOVERNOR, it must be a "bad law" because, well that Democrat in the White House is OK with it.
And as I said, the bulk of the implementation delays have been short-term (and that is even true of the most recent "grace" period extension) and most are now a thing of the past.
And while Obamacare remains underwater popularity-wise, that situation is moderating - and will likely continue to do as it's put into place. While public support of the law was never strong, neither was opposition - with barely 50% being opposed to the law (and that in spite of lies about the law such as Palin's idiotic "death panel" claim - which only an idiot Republican would believe). The latest FoxNews poll for example - which is somehow always one of the "most unfavorable" polls on the law - has it's "unfavorable" edge roughly half of what it was just a month or so ago. Other - more "fair and balanced" polls have more reasonable results.
Obamacare will be fine - and so will the American People - MILLIONS of whom now have health insurance for the first time in their lives.
Ken
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