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Old 02-18-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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I want to shop for my health insurance like I shop for my auto insurance. Across statelines.

 
Old 02-18-2015, 09:28 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated View Post
If you oppose health care reform (the inferior Obamacare, or much preferred single-payer model), please list your reasons for doing so.

I oppose universal health care as a right for every American citizen because:
1. I do NOT want the government controlling my health care.

Good luck.
I do support health care REFORM though.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 09:29 AM
 
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So who changes it? The government? How's that working for the postal service and VA?

Just think, lets say there are 10,000,000 people in the VA, it's screwed....and you want the government to help 350,000,000 people....
I said who had to change this. Those who want change and they are not doing it. I do not disagree with that.

I'm saying that it doesn't have to be that way.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 09:34 AM
 
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I want to shop for my health insurance like I shop for my auto insurance. Across statelines.
We have 3 insurance companies in my state. This greatly limits our choices and reduces competition.

My city has 1 broadband provider and we get terrible speed for the price. If there were more options, they would have to increase quality or reduce prices. Not sure why Democrats are so strongly opposed to opening up nationwide health insurance markets rather than limiting them to the state you live in.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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A right is only a right if you're not affecting anyone else when you exercise it. I can speak my mind, and you have the choice of listening. I can buy a gun, and you'll never even know I own it. If I refuse to let the police search my car, it's no skin off your back. Etc., etc...

If you turn health care into a "right", when you exercise that right, you're effectively forcing other people to do work in order to complete that exercise.

Name a single actual right that requires the participation of a 3rd party...
 
Old 02-18-2015, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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2. Theft and damage to innovation. Most countries (Canada, Europe, etc) set prices on drugs, innovation, etc. its okay - i suppose - as there aren't set prices here in US. Without US funding innovation, innovation would fail/fall. you set a limit on prices, you set a limit on how much innovation is created.




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This!! I spent the better part of yesterday afternoon with a great friend who lives in Fort McMurray, Alberta on the phone yesterday. I think the idea of everyone having coverage is fantastic (but logically there's no way we here in the States can do it due to monetary constraints and those who refuse to work and pay taxes), but hearing her talk.... the health care in Canada isn't all it's cracked up to be as far as choice, quality of care, and additional costs out of ones pocket.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 09:45 AM
 
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We have 3 insurance companies in my state. This greatly limits our choices and reduces competition.

My city has 1 broadband provider and we get terrible speed for the price. If there were more options, they would have to increase quality or reduce prices. Not sure why Democrats are so strongly opposed to opening up nationwide health insurance markets rather than limiting them to the state you live in.
Unions, power, money, lobbyists.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I am for some type of universal coverage. I wish we had looked at other countries that have successful programs (maybe france, Spain, Korea, japan, Chile) to see if we could adopt something similar. Obamacare offers benefits to a few but is overall worse than what we had before it imho.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why not universal health care?
The conservative argument for UHC is the fact that it would remove a HUGE burden from the backs of the employers, boosting their profits and competitiveness.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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Absolutely not!
One size fits all does not work for ALL people!
Ever see how the government runs the VA? that would be universal healthcare
in America.
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