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Old 02-22-2015, 06:54 PM
 
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maybe it's this: American Community Survey Main - U.S. Census Bureau

says it's mandatory
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Old 02-22-2015, 07:01 PM
 
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Hmm..
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Old 02-22-2015, 07:04 PM
 
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maybe it's this: American Community Survey Main - U.S. Census Bureau

says it's mandatory
AFAIK these things are mandatory but not enforced as such. That said, there's not much you can do to stop them from coming to your door however many times the policies and procedures say they have to. Best to either just answer or politely send them on their way however many times they show up -- but you really should answer, with the exception of the data on race (and you can just not answer that or write down American or put in a joke response or whatever) most of the information collected is used by the government and other consumers of it in productive ways that will benefit your community.
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Old 02-22-2015, 07:09 PM
 
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Does not compute. OP needs to go up the chain at the Census Bureau. And yes it is mandatory and has been for a while. However they don't do 8 visits.

So something is wrong. Go find an adult and fix it.
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Old 02-22-2015, 08:41 PM
 
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This is the "American Community Survey" and it is very controversial. The questions asked are absurdly intrusive, and the staff responsible for retrieving the answers are notorious for how aggressive they tend to be. If you do not comply, they start making threats that you will be sued and fined.

However, even though there has been a huge backlash and tremendous resistance from millions of people, it appears that they have never followed through with this threat even one time. In fact, it is very doubtful whether this type of "mandatory" survey can pass constitutional muster, and the government apparently does not want to risk finding out by allowing this to be considered in a court of law.

You would do well to tell them to F.O. and get off of your property. The do not have the authority to do this and the government cannot and should not be trusted with the very intrusive and extremely personal information they are asking for here.

Here is an article about the "American Community Survey" experience from the Chicago Tribune:

Census worker won't take no for answer - Chicago Tribune

There is also a lot of other information on the web by disgruntled Americans who have refused to cooperate with this outrageously intrusive act of government over-reach.
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Old 02-22-2015, 10:13 PM
 
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next time just answer the door with a .45 in your hand in plain view, and tell him to get lost.
While 8 visits is excessive this is a terrible idea and possibly a serious crime.

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Old 02-22-2015, 10:14 PM
 
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This is the "American Community Survey" and it is very controversial. The questions asked are absurdly intrusive, and the staff responsible for retrieving the answers are notorious for how aggressive they tend to be. If you do not comply, they start making threats that you will be sued and fined.

However, even though there has been a huge backlash and tremendous resistance from millions of people, it appears that they have never followed through with this threat even one time. In fact, it is very doubtful whether this type of "mandatory" survey can pass constitutional muster, and the government apparently does not want to risk finding out by allowing this to be considered in a court of law.

You would do well to tell them to F.O. and get off of your property. The do not have the authority to do this and the government cannot and should not be trusted with the very intrusive and extremely personal information they are asking for here.

Here is an article about the "American Community Survey" experience from the Chicago Tribune:

Census worker won't take no for answer - Chicago Tribune

There is also a lot of other information on the web by disgruntled Americans who have refused to cooperate with this outrageously intrusive act of government over-reach.
The issue is multiple visits. The quoted case was the non-cooperative subject.

Totally different cases. In one case the ability of the government to force you to participate...which they may in fact be able to do but not tested in court.

The other case sound like some weird form of harassment. Why in the world would they come back 8 times. So either the census bureau has lost their mind or our OP has it wrong.
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Old 02-22-2015, 10:18 PM
 
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Why in the world would they come back 8 times. So either the census bureau has lost their mind or our OP has it wrong.
I believe it's a 3 month survey to see how your answers change over the 3 months. I wonder if it an offense to give false answers.
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Old 02-22-2015, 10:21 PM
 
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This is the "American Community Survey" and it is very controversial. The questions asked are absurdly intrusive, and the staff responsible for retrieving the answers are notorious for how aggressive they tend to be. If you do not comply, they start making threats that you will be sued and fined.

However, even though there has been a huge backlash and tremendous resistance from millions of people, it appears that they have never followed through with this threat even one time. In fact, it is very doubtful whether this type of "mandatory" survey can pass constitutional muster, and the government apparently does not want to risk finding out by allowing this to be considered in a court of law.

You would do well to tell them to F.O. and get off of your property. The do not have the authority to do this and the government cannot and should not be trusted with the very intrusive and extremely personal information they are asking for here.

Here is an article about the "American Community Survey" experience from the Chicago Tribune:

Census worker won't take no for answer - Chicago Tribune

There is also a lot of other information on the web by disgruntled Americans who have refused to cooperate with this outrageously intrusive act of government over-reach.
This is also a terrible idea, because according to the US code they do in fact have authority to do this. Once more if you do get taken to court it will likely be a much more costly and time consuming process then even 8 survey visits.
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Old 02-22-2015, 10:22 PM
 
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I believe it's a 3 month survey to see how your answers change over the 3 months. I wonder if it an offense to give false answers.
That gets you in their twice. Not 8 times.
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