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Old 02-28-2015, 05:21 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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They aren't...until you go over there bothering them.
They are here.
Gilani’s “communes” are described by law enforcement as “classically structured terrorist cells.”

Seven of the compounds have been identified as training facilities: Marion, Alabama; Commerce, Georgia; Macon, Georgia; Talihina, Oklahoma; York County, South Carolina; Dover, Tennessee and Red House, Virginia. Other compounds are located in California, Colorado, Texas, Maryland, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Washington, Michigan and West Virginia.


ISIS leader: Behead Westerners
ISIS audio tape: Attack U.S. homes 02:27

The leader specifically called for lone-wolf attacks in the United States and France -- two countries that have been conducting airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq.
Western allies reject ISIS leader's threats against their civilians - CNN.com

CNN reports that Obama has stated that the international community is not prepared to respond.
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Old 02-28-2015, 05:24 PM
 
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They are here.
Gilani’s “communes” are described by law enforcement as “classically structured terrorist cells.”

Seven of the compounds have been identified as training facilities: Marion, Alabama; Commerce, Georgia; Macon, Georgia; Talihina, Oklahoma; York County, South Carolina; Dover, Tennessee and Red House, Virginia. Other compounds are located in California, Colorado, Texas, Maryland, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Washington, Michigan and West Virginia.


ISIS leader: Behead Westerners
ISIS audio tape: Attack U.S. homes 02:27

The leader specifically called for lone-wolf attacks in the United States and France -- two countries that have been conducting airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq.
Western allies reject ISIS leader's threats against their civilians - CNN.com

CNN reports that Obama has stated that the international community is not prepared to respond.
No, they aren't here.

Why do you guys WANT them to be here so bad? What's the endgame?
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Old 02-28-2015, 05:32 PM
 
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You asked why are they our enemy. For an answer to your question, see GregW's post, below -- concise and to the point:
They aren't going to do squat to us. They wouldn't even be news if we hadn't created the opportunity for them.
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Old 02-28-2015, 05:53 PM
 
Location: US
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Actually, the FBI disagrees with you. There are supporters and operatives in all 50 states.

FBI investigating ISIS suspects in all 50 states | TheHill

"We have investigations of people in various stages of radicalizing in all 50 states. . ."

It's not that people want them here. That's absurd. It's that SO many people are ignoring or don't care, for right now anyway, that they are pouring over the borders, recruiting here, using social media to recruit and train and have a presence.

Here's their message, targeting "troubled souls:" '"Troubled soul, come to the caliphate, you will live a life of glory, these are the apocalyptic end times, you will find a life of meaning here, fighting for our so-called caliphate. And if you can't come, kill somebody where you are," Comey said, describing the group's messaging.'

They are recruiting and have put out a call to American citizens to go through yellow pages, look at social mediation to find the addresses of service members, show up at their homes and kill them.

http://info.publicintelligence.net/A...hreatsISIL.pdf

"Based on a law enforcement bulletin citing a jihadist tweet ISIL has called on lone offenders in the US
to use the “yellow pages,” social media sites like Facebook, Linkedin, and Twitter to find the addresses
of service members, “show up [at their homes] and slaughter them."


I'm not trying to start trouble with you DD. They are here. There's no end game. There's no game at all. This is serious.

With regard to their funding, they get money by bartering for hostages, and, according to recent news, it is suspected they are selling the organs of those they have slaughtered.


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No, they aren't here.

Why do you guys WANT them to be here so bad? What's the endgame?
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Old 02-28-2015, 06:03 PM
 
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Actually, the FBI disagrees with you. There are supporters and operatives in all 50 states.
How will our military being over there address that?
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Old 02-28-2015, 06:13 PM
 
Location: US
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Whether they're over there or not--ISIS is here. You are talking apples and oranges. This administration chooses not to engage. Okay. Fine. They're here now.

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How will our military being over there address that?
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Old 02-28-2015, 06:20 PM
 
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Whether they're over there or not--ISIS is here. You are talking apples and oranges. This administration chooses not to engage. Okay. Fine. They're here now.
How would engaging them stop them from coming here? I'm talking specifically about the point.
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Old 02-28-2015, 06:44 PM
 
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You're really asking me how stopping ISIS when and if they were a "JV" team would have kept them from expanding here? Stopping their growth? Stopping them from expanding, recruiting, developing their social media network? You're really asking me that question?

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How would engaging them stop them from coming here? I'm talking specifically about the point.
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Old 02-28-2015, 06:48 PM
 
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You're really asking me how stopping ISIS when and if they were a "JV" team would have kept them from expanding here? Stopping their growth? Stopping them from expanding, recruiting, developing their social media network? You're really asking me that question?
The United States was never in any position to stop the establishment of ISIS, and stopping its growth is even more impossible.

Once we invaded Iraq, the seeds were sown for their establishment. The end.
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Old 02-28-2015, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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How are ISIS fighters any different than the Vikings, who they named a football team after?

The Vikings are dead and therefore no longer a problem.

"Fighters"?
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