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Old 03-20-2015, 03:56 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Global economy bring new realities to the equation.

You want to have jobs? Guess what........it has to make financial sense for companies to have ANY of their operations in the USA. Wanna put the screws to the evulllll big businesses........might as well say bye-bye!
As though anyone here needs another lesson on the moral/ethical bankruptcy....the treason....of large corporations today.

But what is really fascinating is to watch the tools of the Republican party continue to celebrate their own demise in the streets.
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Old 03-20-2015, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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There were 30,000 people applying for a 3,000 jobs when KIA opened in West Point, GA. Highest paying gig with room to advance. People drive 2 hours to get to work everyday. People are willing to work, but there just isn't enough quality jobs to go around.

Factory work at $12-13 per hour and they wonder why nobody wants to work there. Where I work they pay a respectable wage, in fact the highest in town. 3M will usually pay the highest of any blue collar place in town because they make relatively quality products and have a relatively well run company with relatively high moral ethics.

The whole world is having a problem with the elites wanting to bring in all these illegals and make all these countries into 'melting pots' and one has to ask themselves is it just because they want the cheap labor? A socialist system cannot support a large welfare class but I doubt the corporations care about that. The corporations buy out the politicians who in turn support mass immigration. What is the race mixing agenda we have going on today? In the US at least it seems to be about using cheap Mexican labor so they no longer have to pay living wages. That combined with automation is a recipe for a lower middle class lifestyle going forward.

The boomers telling the young people today to man up, that it's young people's fault.. what a joke. Young people don't want to take the same work the boomers took but the wages today pay half as much ... I'd say that makes them smart. I wouldn't take a job for crap wages either. Stay single and have leverage over the broken system so you don't have to take any low wage junk work out there to support kids....

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Old 03-20-2015, 04:28 AM
 
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Factory work at $12-13 per hour and they wonder why nobody wants to work there. Where I work they pay a respectable wage, in fact the highest in town. 3M will usually pay the highest of any blue collar place in town because they make relatively quality products and have a relatively well run company with relatively high moral ethics.

The whole world is having a problem with the elites wanting to bring in all these illegals and make all these countries into 'melting pots' and one has to ask themselves is it just because they want the cheap labor? A socialist system cannot support a large welfare class but I doubt the corporations care about that. The corporations buy out the politicians who in turn support mass immigration. What is the race mixing agenda we have going on today? In the US at least it seems to be about using cheap Mexican labor so they no longer have to pay living wages. That combined with automation is a recipe for a lower middle class lifestyle going forward.

The boomers telling the young people today to man up, that it's young people's fault.. what a joke. Young people don't want to take the same work the boomers took but the wages today pay half as much ... I'd say that makes them smart. I wouldn't take a job for crap wages either. Stay single and have leverage over the broken system so you don't have to take any low wage junk work out there to support kids....
What an elitist thing to say,"i wouldnt take a job for crap wages".

Well, most of us have at one point in our lives because we have somebody to support, or want to help out, (it doesnt have to be kids, either)----- and every job is a learning experience and gives you a skill set as you work your way up the ladder.

The one part i will agree with is that this importation of more workers to try to destroy our system and our economy is totally wrong and disgusting. Sadly, i don't see that many young people standing up against it, and it would certainly be helpful if they did.

Obviously, americans already do work as cheaply as foreigners because obama took away health care with obamacare and now reduced job hours, and there still is a basic minimum wage. Americans are faced with a bleaker future going forward.


And yet the democrats want to bring in MORE illegal immigrants.
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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The problem is Pro Americans vs Pro Globalists in a nut shell.

For Pro Globalists, the country is nothing more than a tool to expand their wealth and power abroad using the tax payers to prop up their global military and American consumers to prop up their markets.

The problem is eventually you run out of other peoples money (Tax Payers and the American Consumer)
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:07 AM
 
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Global economy bring new realities to the equation.

You want to have jobs? Guess what........it has to make financial sense for companies to have ANY of their operations in the USA. Wanna put the screws to the evulllll big businesses........might as well say bye-bye!
Then we need to create tariffs so that they have some skin in the game if they want to sell back to the Americans they just ditched.

Otherwise, good luck selling your 650 dollar Iphones to the Chinese that make a dollar a day.
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Then we need to create tariffs so that they have some skin in the game if they want to sell back to the Americans they just ditched.

Otherwise, good luck selling your 650 dollar Iphones to the Chinese that make a dollar a day.
. Americans don't need to "make financial sense" to these pirate megacorporations with allegience to no people or country on Earth.

It is THEY that need US-the largest consumer group ON THE PLANET. Some of these globalist neo-CONS have absolutely no spine or pride in their country. We built the largest middle class in the history of the World, and they are willing to throw it all away for the sake of the greed of a FEW men-many foreigners.

They want complete access to the largest and wealthiest consumer group on the planet while at the same time having access to the cheapest labor on the planet?

They will need to PAY AMERICANS for that luxury, and no I don't just mean the leeches in Congress. We can no longer afford to sell ourselves for pennies on the dollar to these nationless entities.
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:17 AM
 
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Then we need to create tariffs so that they have some skin in the game if they want to sell back to the Americans they just ditched.

Otherwise, good luck selling your 650 dollar Iphones to the Chinese that make a dollar a day.
There are pleny of customers for those products in China, just not those making slave wages. Even if only 10 percent can afford it, thats over 100M people. Same with India.
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:33 AM
 
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really? factory jobs are gone? i can think of at least three companies right here in my hometown that are factory jobs, leoni cable, triple S plastics, and hughs aircraft/raytheon.
20 years ago, there was 6 factories in this town. Today, there is one. The biggest one that was here, moved to Mexico. The others folded.
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:35 AM
 
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As though anyone here needs another lesson on the moral/ethical bankruptcy....the treason....of large corporations today.

But what is really fascinating is to watch the tools of the Republican party continue to celebrate their own demise in the streets.

This is hilarious. . . one I think your scarecrow of the republican party. I've seen a lot of Republicans wanting protectionist trade and immigration policies too. . .think the upset over Obama's policies?! So I don't see republicans as "hands off" as you paint them.


Though I disagree with them, because I do think they should be hands off. Treason of companies? You know what you want? you want to build a little wall and cocon yourself in. No outsourcing, no global companies. Lets buy american, keep american, self sufficent. . .

Yeah you ignore the fact that ANY country that has tried that has caved, collapsed, and open the gates.

You ignore the fact that the last 20 years has bought more people out of poverty than anytime in Human history


No - your just plain selfish. You think that because you were born at the right latitude and longitude you should be able to learn less, have less skills (or same) and get paid more.

Well . . i guess you swayed me, that is the definition of lazy.


Jobs like "factory" jobs won't exist in the US. Those old school jobs from post WW2 america are either 1) replaced by robots and engineers with college degrees 2) moved to a country with cheaper labor


MOVE ON AND ADAPT (or take less pay, and less and less)- you can ***** all you want about the tractor MR Shovelman, but the tractor is here to stay.
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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I applied for a produce associate at a supermarket a while ago, and you wouldn't believe that the auto response email said that the position had a high volume of applicants. Also, a dishwasher application at Boston Market requires an IQ test. I kid you not!!!

Employers can only play tricks like this when they have a pool of candidates to choose from.
Did you know that to install floor covering for the big box stores, they run a credit check? So if you had a medical problem or for some other reason had to file bankruptcy, they won't hire you.
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