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Old 03-23-2015, 12:19 PM
 
Location: georgia
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I always vote against the incumbent- always. Party is irrelevant. The longer they are in office, the more corrupt they become.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:21 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Evil appears to have become a requirement to get on either party's ticket.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I have only lived in blue states. I tend to vote against, not for a candidate with an emphasis on third party for president. I made an exception for healthcare. No regrets.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:26 PM
 
Location: On The Road Full Time RVing
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They are all the same ... Bankrupting the U.S.A.

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Old 03-23-2015, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Never. I haven't cast a vote for pres. since 1996, and next year looks no different.

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The lesser of two evils is still evil.
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Evil appears to have become a requirement to get on either party's ticket.
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They are all the same ... Bankrupting the U.S.A.

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I don't think voting changes anything, so I don't vote. It only emboldens whoever you voted for and they can act like they have the support of the citizens. I also don't want to vote for someone to take my neighbor's stuff and force my values on them, so I'm against voting for moral reasons as well.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Evil appears to have become a requirement to get on either party's ticket.

Evil? More like obligated.

Number one job of any presidential, senate, rep or governor wannabe or up for reelection, is fund raising for himself and his party.

The Citizens United ruling allows anyone, from anywhere to donate an unlimited amount of money and do so anonymously. I am unaware of any serious initiative to amend the Constitution.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:38 PM
 
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Evil? More like obligated.

Number one job of any presidential, senate, rep or governor wannabe or up for reelection, is fund raising for himself and his party.

The Citizens United ruling allows anyone, from anywhere to donate an unlimited amount of money and do so anonymously. I am unaware of any serious initiative to amend the Constitution.
You know by now that this isn't true but for some reason the lie continues to get repeated. Citizen United had absolutely nothing to do with nor changed rules concerning campaign donations.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:46 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Evil? More like obligated.

Number one job of any presidential, senate, rep or governor wannabe or up for reelection, is fund raising for himself and his party.

The Citizens United ruling allows anyone, from anywhere to donate an unlimited amount of money and do so anonymously. I am unaware of any serious initiative to amend the Constitution.
Certainly sounds like evil to me
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:49 PM
 
Location: California
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Default Do you vote for "the lesser of two evils"?

No I stick to my guns, if a candidate doesn't add up for me them I just pass that vote by.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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People talk about throwing away your vote by voting 3rd party. Well I hate to tell you, but voting for a Republican who stands strong on social issues is throwing your vote away. That candidate simply cannot mathematically hit 270 electoral votes any longer.
Incorrect.

A 3rd party candidate has 0 chance of winning anytime in the foreseeable future. However a (R) can in fact win, regardless of social issue positions.

Remember, the POTUS really does not have the power to make changes (if he wishes to stay within our Constitutional Republics framework) to most social issues. Sure he appoints federal judges which will rule on the Constitutionality of laws passed by the legislature, but that is hardly direct control over such things. Many fiscally conservative minded libertarians drone on about social issues, but they have little to do with who gets elected.
Of course the (D's) will play it up implying (R's) are evil and have a war on women, elderly, minorities, etc.
However educated voters see beyond the rhetoric and hyperbole. So if the (R's) run a pragmatic person, preferably with executive experience, they can win in 2016.
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