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Old 03-19-2015, 01:45 PM
 
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How can you be in support of a system that isn't democratic in principle? In capitalism workers are not entitled to their fruits of labor. People who live in a supposed free society spend majority of their time in a vicinity that's undemocratic. Workplaces or firms operate on the basis of higher ups. We're told what to do and are indecisive of how much we make. It's ironic that those who advocate entrepreneurship don't call for communal workplace environments. In a commune, workers are in charge of their fruits of labor. Capitalism does not operate in this manner.
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Old 03-19-2015, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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You can choose not to work for a certain corporation and that is not what irony is.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:00 PM
 
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You can choose not to work for a certain corporation and that is not what irony is.
No you can not. If this were true, there would be no such thing as involuntary unemployment or wage slavery.


Can you quit your job tomorrow and automatically get another one at your employer's competitor? I highly doubt it.


Working class people are not free.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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How can you be in support of a system that isn't democratic in principle? In capitalism workers are not entitled to their fruits of labor. People who live in a supposed free society spend majority of their time in a vicinity that's undemocratic. Workplaces or firms operate on the basis of higher ups. We're told what to do and are indecisive of how much we make. It's ironic that those who advocate entrepreneurship don't call for communal workplace environments. In a commune, workers are in charge of their fruits of labor. Capitalism does not operate in this manner.
The US is not a democracy.

You are free to quit your job, form/fund a commune and split the net profits or cough up more capital to cover net losses.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:10 PM
 
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How can you be in support of a system that isn't democratic in principle? In capitalism workers are not entitled to their fruits of labor. People who live in a supposed free society spend majority of their time in a vicinity that's undemocratic. Workplaces or firms operate on the basis of higher ups. We're told what to do and are indecisive of how much we make. It's ironic that those who advocate entrepreneurship don't call for communal workplace environments. In a commune, workers are in charge of their fruits of labor. Capitalism does not operate in this manner.

you a dang communist, no serious, that's a socialism principal not a democratic theory
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Houston
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No you can not. If this were true, there would be no such thing as involuntary unemployment or wage slavery.

In the US there is no such thing as wage slavery. Liberals demean the term slavery just like they demean the term racism.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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How can you be in support of a system that isn't democratic in principle? In capitalism workers are not entitled to their fruits of labor. People who live in a supposed free society spend majority of their time in a vicinity that's undemocratic. Workplaces or firms operate on the basis of higher ups. We're told what to do and are indecisive of how much we make. It's ironic that those who advocate entrepreneurship don't call for communal workplace environments. In a commune, workers are in charge of their fruits of labor. Capitalism does not operate in this manner.
First, you need to understand that in a "free" capitalist society, the government and business are not the same nor are they intended to be. After that, there are a whole lot of other things you need to understand.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The family unit does not tend to be democratic either.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:18 PM
 
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How can you be in support of a system that isn't democratic in principle? In capitalism workers are not entitled to their fruits of labor. People who live in a supposed free society spend majority of their time in a vicinity that's undemocratic. Workplaces or firms operate on the basis of higher ups. We're told what to do and are indecisive of how much we make. It's ironic that those who advocate entrepreneurship don't call for communal workplace environments. In a commune, workers are in charge of their fruits of labor. Capitalism does not operate in this manner.
If communal ownership of means of production was more efficient it would prevail in capitalism.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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One should never confuse an economic system with a political system. There is NOTHING in the Constitution regarding anything economic. We could be a socialistic or communistic government quite comfortably so long as the rules set down in the constitution were applied.
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